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Hi,
im a brazilian male ridder new to this community. Does anyone know any lifter that likes to be treated as beast of burden? i enjoy ridding with whip, spurs and reins.
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Pony_Rider:
If you are looking for a perfect fit to your desires from the start, you will probably be disappointed.
A carrier or masochistic type will also likely have specific desires that will most often not be a perfect match to yours.
You should look for an agreeable carrier who will consent or desires a rider who wears spurs and uses equestrian tack and you should use these items sparingly . The actions or your carrier will tell you if you are using enough force.
The relative positions of the rider and carrier implies your control of the carrier. You are sitting on him and obviously burdening him as you control his direction, pace and the duration of his service.
But this doesn't in itself indicate that his perception of the experience is the mirror of your's.
Whatever enjoyment you derive from riding him is entirely in your mind and the same is true for your carrier. You may find carriers who will obey you completely while you are sitting on him, but not submit otherwise and may consider himself your equal when you are not on top of him.
The only way to find the nearest fit to Your perfect carrier is to experiment with a number of potential carriers. Promises made by any given carrier are often sincere to some degree but far to often prove to be far short in actual practice.
You may find carriers who can't perform or even lift you, or can only carry for short distances.
If you can find another rider or a group , you will have a much better chance of finding the kind of carrier you want through networking with other riders.
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AudreyB
You are absolutely right with your contribution.
When I got my first rides the ladies and girls did not ask me if wanted or not.
As soon as they sat on my neck they were in charge and never has been any discussion.
They told me how I had to obey to their corporal orders, given by their thighs around my neck and their feet and legs aside along my body.
And it was the riders who made me step faster or slower and it was them who decided about the direction and how long and how far we were going to.
Sometimes they gave quite short commands to me just as to a real horse.
I think that not each carrier would be satisfied in such a situation.
And most of them could not imagine how exhausting it can be if the way just gets by a certain mood of the rider much longer as expected.
They sat comfortable and relaxed on my neck and they were with their thoughts quite elsewhere.
So it was never their problem how I felt under their crotches as long as they sat comfortable and could enjoy the landscape.
So I think it can be quite difficult to find a carrier who is corresponding with his rider.
And apart from all that each rider has her own and unique style of riding and I hardly believe that a rider ever would change her riding style just in regard of her carrier.
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frederik;
While many carriers have expressed the desire to be treated like a "Beast Of Burden", one thing that a carrier with such desires should under is that women riding on your shoulders might treat you as a beast of burden, she is very much aware that you are a human male and not just a substitute for a horse or a donkey etc.
Sitting on your shoulders is an act of domination and may even be motivated by the desire to humble and perhaps humiliate you.
I can only speak for women in this case because women have a great number of mixed feelings about men,both positive and negative and dominating a man in any number of ways ,including physically dominating him is often a very powerful desire.
Turning his desires to her advantage is natural and is possibly a survival instinct going back to the stone age when women relied on men to provide food .
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AudreyB
Thank you very much for female POV.
It is clear that I was for all my riders not a substitute of a real horse.
And after my feelings I was not only a beast of burden.
They were pretty well aware that they sat on a human being.
But what I wanted to express that was their complete change of attitude as soon as they sat on me.
Clearly it was in general a more or stronger act of domination depending on the mood and the character of the rider.
Nevertheless they gave me the clear feeling that from this moment I am inferior to them.
Of course they were mostly rather demanding and imperious to me when we met in the stable but they stayed polite expecting from me of course highest respect and almost submissiveness.
I was for them only the stable-boy who had to obey and had to be grateful to all of them that I got his well paid job.
They made me clear that my fate depended at their mood.
And. for many it was a deep kind of erotic satisfaction that they could give me orders and use me like this.
At that age this demeaning use was not a contribution to my reputation in regard of the other students if male or female.
And quite often other students were teasing, joking and mocking at me.
So I think for most of them it was also a lustful act demonstrating their superior power.
Their real horses they were treating much better and so we see the difference between a human beast of burden and a real horse.
Their horses did not have to clean their boots and with their horses they spoke friendly.
I think there has been quite a good part of sadism also.
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frederik:
We are really talking about the same thing.
The woman's attitude "changed" from your point of view but it may have started in her mind as a test in a manner of speaking and actually changed a few moments later.
Two factors were involved. First, she sat on you and second, you let her sit on you without protesting. Once you accepted her domination,
she "owned you". She took control of your strength for her own purposes and a male's strength is one of the factors a woman sees at "male". It's the most obvious area where men are superior and once she controlled it, you were beneath her in more that being physically under her.
Obviously there is some physical eroticism involved but most of that eroticism was in her mind, not her genitalia.
As for the other ladies, most of them would have the same feeling and desires once it was obvious that you were conquered and girls being girls, they wanted what the first woman had and possibly more of it. Seeing the first lady sitting on top of you made it possible, acceptable and desirable. Women simply love seeing women defeat men and your acceptance of her dominance would be perceived that way on an emotional level.
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AudreyB
Thank you for your very interesting and quite sophisticated contribution.
I also think that the very first adult ladies who rode me had these ideas long before in their minds and at the very first occasion the first lady was grabbing her chance and turning her thoughts into reality.
It was almost like kidnapping because everybody was in a hurry and she was quite nervous because she was oner of the next candidates for an important competition and so she did not discuss at all with me but just ordered me to go down and then she sat on me.
She won the competition and she won a lot of money.
She did not even take any care that I was that time still so young.
In that situation I did not have any chance to refuse. And so I obeyed to her.
Protest would have been quite useless. I was the stable-boy and she a powerful adult lady who probably never heard in her life any contradiction. She was used to be in command and on my opinion she have given a damn. (as she later did)
Of course I felt being owned and just like her property. And she made me feel from the first second who is the rider and who is nothing but only the inferior pony.
She squeezed my neck and pressed her crotch ruthlessly against my neck and I could only hope that this ride would not be so long.
Also I had to take all my strength to carry her weight.
She was an adult lady of about. 28 or 30 years and absolutely not fat but quite sturdy and so she had her weight.
After her victorious competition she made her way back on me by saying: If you could carry me here then you can carry me back also.
I felt almost like in a trap.
And of course there has been eroticism but as you say this feeling was probably not dominant.
Indeed you are right when you say she conquered me or watched me like. a huntress.
And she extremely enjoyed the admiration of the girls and other women. She had quite a lot of fans among the teenage girls.
None of the teenage girls ever felt pity with me although we were about the same age.
Finally it was her who was crossing a red line being a positive example to the girls and ladies.
Being in that stable one of those rare males surrounded by a vast majority of females my protest against anything would have been obviously senseless.
Otherwise I would have lost my well paid job.
And so I had to do quite a few other jobs which were under the dignity of the girls and ladies.
Real erotic affairs between me and the ladies or girls in its basic sense never took place.
Also in this sense they stayed on distance making clear to me that I was inferior to them and not on their level.
Males perhaps would think of sex being surrounded by so many beautiful ladies and girls but there never has been sex in its real sense.
I felt more used like a useful tool or servant.
Girls and ladies did not cover their bodies when I had to clean the shower and they did not hide when I had to clean their toilets.
Often I had the feeling that I was invisible.
To me they were not shameful at all.
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