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It's the Glastonbury Music Festival here in England this week (from this last Wednesday to tomorrow Sunday). It's held on a farm in the county of Somerset (cider drinking country!) So what's special about it? Apart from the pop music, there is lots and lots of SHOULDER RIDING!
In actual fact, I should say 'shoulder sitting' because there are lots of scantily-clad females (teens into their 20s) sat astride the shoulders of guys while they listen to the music and bob up and down on these guys' shoulders. There are a few guys on guys too. But I haven't seen any guys on girls (at least not so far).
The girls who are sat on the shoulders of the guys seem to sit there for a fairly long time - maybe 20 minutes or so. I think I remember reading on this forum that it can be quite tiring for a carrier who is standing still to have someone sat on their shoulders for as little as 10 minutes. So what do the carriers on this Forum think about the stamina of these guys who have a female sat astride their shoulders for 20 minutes+ and bouncing up and down too?
Glastonbury seems to be a shoulder riding festival as much as a music one. Have any carriers on this Forum been to Glastonbury (or any other music festival) specifically to give one or more people a shoulder ride rather than hear the music?
Over the course of five days, it would be possible for a carrier to give shoulder rides to lots of people, particularly females in the teens/20s who look like they'd eagerly accept the chance to get up astride a guy's shoulders. Such a carrier would likely go back home totally exhausted but totally happy too!
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I have found, in my personal experience, that it's not so easy as you imply to get random girls to accept a sr at a festival. Yes, it has happened to me, but most of the sr you see at festivals are people who knew each other before going in.
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Jeff:
Most people who go to festivals go there with people they know and most women would question the motives of a strange man who asked her to sit on his shoulders. She would assume he is either a pervert or he expected something in return for his service.
However, girls tend to be gregarious and also jealous of each other. This might work to your advantage if you encounter a group of people where some of the girls are sitting on guy's shoulders and some are not. If the group has more girls than guys, and you don't just charge over and ask one of the girls to let you lift her, you might have better luck. You might strike up a conversation with the girls and casually mention to one that her friends sitting on their date's shoulder have a much better view. If she shows interest you might then offer to serve her in this capacity. Often at such events there isn't any seating for the public and women often over estimate their tolerance for the shoes they chose out of a sense of fashion rather than practicality.
The option of being able to have a better view and being able to sit rather than stand may be an enticing proposition.
If a girl accepts this offer, remember that you may be nothing more than a optional elevated seat for her. Having her sitting on your shoulders doesn't entitle you to take any liberties or assume any sort of intimacy. You should also put her down carefully when she tells you too and above all, don't give her any indication that she is heavy or a burden on you. This is especially true if she is a heavier girl and might be sensitive to that fact.
I can tell you that sitting on a man's shoulders in a stationary position for a long period can become uncomfortable. I was once in a position where getting down was nearly impossible and I sat on my date for 45 minutes because the crowd was so tightly packed that there was no room to stand. My date missed seeing much of the performance as I had him keep his head down so I could shift my position to take some of my weight off the back of my thighs. even sitting up there for 20 minutes as checkmate guy reported can become uncomfortable. It's more uncomfortable than sitting on someone's shoulders while he is walking in spite of the bouncing of his walking. I have also seen men sitting on men's shoulders at concerts and other events and while mot of the riders were smaller or equal in size to the men beneath them, a few of the riders were larger and obviously larger than most of the girls sitting on guy's shoulders.
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I think Audreyb made some great points. I would add the possibility of "hunting" for shoulder riders together with a wingman! One guy alone offering a shoulder ride could look creepy, but two friends would probably seem innocent fun-loving guys trying to pick up girls (literally and figuratively!)
I agree that a static position is more uncomfortable. The reason is that - during an actual ride - the rider's weight moves up and down at every step. So if I am ridden by a 130 lbs woman, the pressure on my shoulders will constantly vary between something like 100 and 160 lbs. That's better than a constant 130 lbs, believe it or not, because each temporary release helps relax my muscles and allows better blood circulation.
In fact, at a concert, I'd rather move up and down with the music... which is also lots more fun for most riders!
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brad's shoulders:
Your right about the wingman making a guy seem less odd. But I would caution you against isolating a single girl in such a situation. In a crowd the girl will usually feel more secure and if she is with friends she won't feel like she is being ganged up on by two strangers.
Since I only see myself as a rider or perhaps a shoulder-sitter in this case, I can only speak of comfort from that position. Rocking and bouncing to the music at a concert does relieve some of the discomfort and forget the discomfort just as dancing can take my mind off my sore feet.
But when I'm on someone's shoulders I'm often not really sitting on him. My thighs are bearing my weight rather than my bottom and holding onto his head with my thighs to keep balance is a natural reaction and puts more stress on my thighs which makes the interference with blood circulation a bigger problem. I really can't think of a way to resolve this problem of staying up there for a long period of time. Having the carrier bow his head so I can sit more forward solves the problem for me but he can't stay that way for very long and I can't sit on top of his head.
So until they start making headless men I don't think the problem is solvable in any practical way.
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Jeff: a lot of the females (and guys) at Glastonbury were either pretty drunk or high on drugs or both - that's why they go to Glastonbury for booze and drugs as much as they go for the music. It's part of the culture of Glastonbury. So quite a few females will (likely) say 'yes' to just about anything you propose to them, including: 'Hey! Would you like to get on my shoulders for a better view?'
On the last night of Glastonbury, I saw a female who was in her early 20s (I'd guess) who was sat astride a guy's shoulders, and she had what I can only describe as 'head-crushing' thighs.
I did admire the stamina of those guys who were able to stand for pretty long periods (20 minutes+) with bouncing and bobbing over-active young females sat astride their shoulders in amongst a large tightly-packed sweaty crowd.
As Audreyb said, there were quite a few guys-on-guys too. On this point, Glastonbury would suit a pony-guy who wanted a masochistic experience of having a guy sat astride his shoulders for maybe a solid hour while he stood there bearing the guy's weight until... maybe... he dropped to his knees with exhaustion.
The best act in my opinion was an American singer called Chrisse Hynde with the group The Pretenders. She was dressed in tight blue denim jeans and rocked away like a real pop singer and gave a fantastic performance. I guessed that she was over 40 and maybe between 40 to 45. I looked her up on Wikipedia and she is... 65! What a fantastic woman!
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@Audrey - "Until they start making headless men"? That made me laugh out loud!
I would definitely keep my head down for a rider who selfishly demands comfort such as yourself. And even with a wingman, I would target girls that are in pairs or groups: they may even take turns riding me!
@Checkmateguy - Did you take any pictures / videos at Glastonbury? And were you ridden as well?
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Brad's shoulders:
I didn't/wouldn't go to Glastonbury. This music venue has been taken over by the posh types - yuck! Decent straightforward folk used to go to it many years ago but now, as I said, it's been commandeered by the posh, upper-class, types and it's now very expensive. Glastonbury is a place both to be seen and show off by these posers.
So I just watched it on TV via our State broadcaster, the BBC. And well worth watching with plenty of shoulder-riding shots (the camera crews and the control room staff seem to be shoulder-riding fans! Maybe a few are even members of this Forum?)
On the point about a submissive guy being shoulder-sat at Glastonbury until he drops to his knees exhausted, his masochistic experience would be heightened, I think, by the fact that he was being shoulder-sat in public surrounded by other people - a bit like him giving another guy a shoulder-ride along a public street, maybe a shopping street.
On a similar point: I'd love to see Aubreyb being given a shoulder-ride along Main Street in the USA town/city where she lives. That would be something to see!
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checkmateguy:
I wouldn't be as shy as you might think about sitting on some guy's shoulders in public in my home town and none of my close friends would be very surprised. But I am a business woman and I do have to consider my position in the community. As such, public displays that some people might view as inappropriate have to be somewhat guarded. I was lifted on the shoulders of one of my male employees at a company picnic at the beach which amused everyone. The employee didn't seem to mind being my pony since I had taken over as CEO just a few months earlier. Unfortunately, that employee is no longer with my company. He didn't collapse under me at the time so there is little more to say on that subject personally.
Whether the carrier is a masochist by nature or just a person willing to serve for various reasons, I would be amused by a carrier falling beneath his rider or master. A master so dominant that he/she can ride a carrier or slave beyond his limits would be an interesting person in my estimation.
Whether the rider is actually sadistic or just has enough self-esteem to see himself as worthy of such service, he or she would be worth knowing.
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aubreyb:
... some carriers/human ponies might like the experience of being shoulder-sat or shoulder-rode to exhaustion! I am, in a manner of speaking, looking through the other end of the telescope than the one you are looking through.
Jeff: the people at Glastonbury, when there and singing and jigging along to the pop music have a complete personality change. Ordinarily, when you see people en masse in a crowd (e.g. a crowded city centre or a railway station at rush hour) they mostly look stern-faced and don't interact with the people around them. But, at Glastonbury, they are totally transformed albeit with a little help from alcohol and drugs. Most of the females there are likely to say 'yes,' to just about anything. Being asked if they'd like a shoulder ride would be one of the tamest and most innocent of the requests they get. If a guy likes giving females shoulder rides he could do that with different females several time a day over the course of the five-day festival. Save up and go in 2020, Jeff. (But no Glastonbury for two years, I believe, for some unknown reason).
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checkmateguy:
Perhaps I'm missing something because I don't really understand the "different ends of the telescope" remark.
From some of your previous posts, I'm almost certain that you indicated that you were more inclined to be a rider and expressed something of a desire to sit on the shoulders of both muscular men and thin/frail men who would suffer from your weight on their shoulders.
I'm quite familiar with masochists and have encountered several over the years who have requested things that would make falling beneath someone sitting on their shoulders seem mild or even mainstream. I have never indulged them of course but some of these things, whether merely a fantasy or a serious desire included what amounted to assisted suicide. Needless to say I don't stay in the company of such extreme individuals and have no idea or interest in knowing if they ever found anyone interested in indulging them.
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aubreyb:
just to clarify what I meant by the remark 'looking through the other end of the telescope.'
Quite naturally, as a rider, you view things from a shoulder rider's viewpoint. The 'other end of the telescope' is the viewpoint of a carrier/human pony. His viewpoint (ponies are usually guys although there are a sprinkling of females who like to be rode) is probably that of a person who would like to be ridden by a dominant rider.
To illustrate this point, we had a man speaking on UK radio last Sunday morning. He was talking about women and the type of men they like. Although women generally like 'nice' men as friends (i.e. gentle, agreeable, and often docile men), when asked if they'd like this sort of man as their boyfriend (thus implying a sexual relationship) they usually said: 'Oh, my god, no! He's just too nice!'
Translated into shoulder riding, many human ponies similarly (if they have a choice) prefer a dominant rider rather than a 'nice' rider who might be constantly asking them if they're okay/feeling tired/am I too heavy/do you want a rest... blaa... blaa...blaa...?
Truth be told they want a bastard to get on their shoulders and ride them like hell.
So if you feel like having a 'hard ride,' aubreyb, don't hold back. Get astride your pony-guy's shoulders, squeeze his head between your thighs, dig your heels into his ribs, and ride him until you achieve the gratification you crave even if that means riding him until he drops! The sole reason that pony guys exist and their raison d'etre is to satisfy the needs and desires of shoulder riders.
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checkmateguy:
Thank you for the clarification . I'm certain that if I were sitting on the shoulders of a masochist who craved such abuse, abusing him beyond his physical limits would be relatively easy from that position. It may also be fun if I was in the right mood at the time.
As it is, I see the rider as the superior position and rightfully expecting the cooperation and service from the carrier. This is of course just from my point of view. There have been times when I saw the carrier's service as a personal favor or simply a matter of practicality .At such times I have expressed gratitude for his efforts.
But , as in the case of riding with my friend in the woods, I experienced various changes of attitude in regard to both my carrier and our relative positions. Starting with some empathy and gratitude, through some degree of anger and ultimately indifference. The indifference was the feeling that somewhat surprised me and the one that I examined . It rather shaped my general attitude in regard to the activity.
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