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I have noticed that it is easier for me to carry heavier girls and women than lighter ones. I recently carried three different girls, in three different occasions. Two of them were light, maybe 50 kilos each. The last one was heavier, maybe 70 kilos. It was far more pleasant and less tiring to carry the last girl. She had perfect balance and I think it was easier for her to. The smallest and shortest of the other girls got an aching leg after 10-15 minutes. This often happens when I carry short and light riders. When I put her down she could hardly stand up. I have never experiences this with a tall and heavy girl. They tend to position themselves more naturally which makes it easier to carry them. One important thing is that with longer legs it is easier for me as a carrier to wrap them around my back and thus create better stability. But if the girls have long legs to wrap around my back but are thin and light it still doesn't create the same stability as it does with a heavier girl. From practical experience the ideal rider for me is a girl or a woman about 1,70-1,75 cm tall weighing around 70-75 kilos. When those conditions are in place and the balance and chemistry is right it is very pleasant trying to endure as long as possible. For me 15 minutes are usually no problem but it is very hard to reach 30 minutes. What are your experiences regarding these issues?
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Back to the original topic... I think my ideal rider can be in the wide range of 100 to 160 pounds: the success of the ride mostly depends on how that weight is distributed on my shoulders and presses on my body.
A rider who sits upright with a good posture will use my bone structure more effectively, obtaining in return a longer ride. I am always happy to bend my neck forward to make them comfortable and support such alignment, even though that's hard for my neck over time. On the other hand, a rider who is nervous and hunches forward will feel like a bag of potatoes and turn a ride into an ordeal.
Clothing is important as well. A rider in jeans will feel like pressing all their weight onto a small area of my shoulders. Any softer fabric, like leggings, will work much better. And a female rider with bare legs is the best option of all.
The longest ride I have ever given was in neighbor of 35 - 40 minutes. My rider was a 120 lbs woman, wearing cotton shorts, riding with a confident posture (and a matter-of-fact dominant attitude!)
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brad's shoulders wrote:
Back to the original topic... I think my ideal rider can be in the wide range of 100 to 160 pounds: the success of the ride mostly depends on how that weight is distributed on my shoulders and presses on my body.
A rider who sits upright with a good posture will use my bone structure more effectively, obtaining in return a longer ride. I am always happy to bend my neck forward to make them comfortable and support such alignment, even though that's hard for my neck over time. On the other hand, a rider who is nervous and hunches forward will feel like a bag of potatoes and turn a ride into an ordeal.
Clothing is important as well. A rider in jeans will feel like pressing all their weight onto a small area of my shoulders. Any softer fabric, like leggings, will work much better. And a female rider with bare legs is the best option of all.
The longest ride I have ever given was in neighbor of 35 - 40 minutes. My rider was a 120 lbs woman, wearing cotton shorts, riding with a confident posture (and a matter-of-fact dominant attitude!)
Speaking only from the riders point of view, I prefer to ride wearing short cotton blend shorts. My bare thighs can hold onto the carrier's neck better and the soft material gives enough so that my bottom sits more comfortably on his shoulders. I have worn a bikini while sitting on a guy's shoulders while chicken fighting when I was a teenager but it was only for a short period of time as most of such events are.
I wore tight nylon shorts, similar to what bicyclist wear on my second outing with my friend and I found it difficult to grip my carrier's neck and my bottom was somewhat compressed which was harder on my carriers shoulders and neck.
I suppose if a woman wore a skirt and being exposed wasn't a concern, it would be easier on the man she was riding. But it would be something of a problem if she had to sit on the back of the skirt , tucked under her bottom on his shoulders. Obviously a tight fitting skirt would be rather impractical.
I must assume that male riders would be more limited in their options. My friend wore running shorts while riding his carrier on our outings and I didn't notice him having any problem keeping himself seated on his carrier.
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Dear Ms Audrey
I'm sure that 80% of the male members who read Your post have ever since been dreaming that You were riding them in Your "short cotton blend shorts"! By just closing their eyes, they would feel the light weight of Your " bottom comfortably sitting on their shoulders", as well as the lovely touch of Your "bare thighs on their necks and cheeks" ...
At least, I do .............!!
Thanks !
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servusmulierum: Thank you for the compliment. But 80% might be an exaggeration. Some of the men here are riders and some are gay and while I have several close gay male friends, I don't think feeling my thighs on their necks or faces would excite them. Unfortunately, I'm not really that light either, though (130 lbs.)(59 K)is obviously less than most men. My ex-husband was quite strong and muscular but found me rather heavy when I was sitting on him during the few times I was carried on his shoulders.
As I said before, I believe that for the activity to be real and enjoyable , for the rider at least, the rider should have control and obedience in regard to the carrier.
I don't think that cruelty is required however and some consideration for the carrier should be part of the activity. As such, the physical realities of the rider must be considered in regard to clothing. My bottom is soft, but if compressed in tight fitting clothing it is less soft, rather like a soccer ball is softer when not fully inflated.
A softer material that doesn't compress my bottom would be easier on my carrier's neck and shoulders when I'm sitting on him.
The gay friend that I rode with on his two carriers also happens to have a rather pronounced bottom, at least for a man, and his upper body isn't especially muscular or heavy so I imagine that he was also rather more comfortable for his carrier as well.
I think that wearing something like tight denim jeans or denim shorts would add to the discomfort of the carrier while you are sitting on him. That's why I felt that the subject of fashion was worthy of interjecting my views.
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Dear Ms Audrey
Conceptually, I believe that my 80% are close to reality ... I could rephrase it and say instead : "100% of the straight mounts in this forum". But I think it's about the same. And that number should certainly not decrease because of Your weight ... However, very sadly, Your ride might be shortened if Your horse is too weak, or like me, already too old
... As for Your ex-husband, maybe he was strong and muscular, but it was very rude of him to utter such disgraceful words regarding Your weight, instead of expressing regrets for his lack of strength and resilience. He was most certainly a boor, and doesn't deserve to feel the lovely weight of Your "bottom comfortably sitting on his shoulders", if I may quote You again!
Now, I'm not sure that Your human horse would really feel any difference between a tight fitting clothing and a softer material for Your shorts ...: If You were riding me while I was on all four, Your bottom would rest on my back, and I could possibly feel this kind of difference. But if You sit on my shoulders , You sit in fact on the back of Your thighs, not that much on Your bottom ... Which I couldn' feel, to my deepest regret .... But I will find consolation and bliss in the softness of your skin alongside my cheeks ....
If You nicely ban the jeans and stick to short shorts
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servusmulierum: The sitting on the carrier's shoulders is the issue for me because I very much prefer having my bottom supported and not to have to rest my weight on my thighs. That is why I prefer to have my carrier sort of looking down and if possible to have him hunched slightly forward so that my hips are supported. I don't mind resting on my thighs if it's a short ride but as was the case when riding with my friend, my carrier was always trying to stand more erect and raising his head and it made me uncomfortable as well as feeling insecure. My ex was rude of course but he did carry me for quite a long distance before he really complained so I must be fair about that. I wondered if a hunchbacked carrier would be more comfortable to sit on but that might be rather cruel because I imagine that adding weight to the spine of such a person would cause him more pain which is not the purpose.
Unless an old man was exceptionally strong, I wouldn't really want to sit on his shoulders. If he wanted to try to carry me I might let him try on all fours while I sat on his back so he wouldn't fall under me or at least not very far. I don't think pony riding someone on all fours would be practical as an outdoor activity. It would be more about playing or something like that.
But whether I'm on his shoulders or his back, I think that some regard for the carrier should be involved and my bottom should sit more naturally on him and not be compressed into something harder that would be harder on him.
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Audrey, perhaps it is true that causing more pain to a carrier "is not the purpose". But I would argue that the rider's comfort should be more important than the carrier's pain.
As a carrier, it is not comfortable for me to lower my head and to hunch my back. But I will do it, if I know that it makes you feel more comfortable and secure astride my shoulders. That's because - as a carrier - I am at your service and I regard your needs as more important than mine. And I will actually (in a way) even enjoy my discomfort, through the awareness that it is providing you with the best possible ride.
With that said, of course I will avoid getting to the point of risking any serious injury. And I will definitely appreciate your thoughtful decision to wear soft non-compressing clothing...
(By the way, 130 lbs is not heavy!)
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brad's shoulders: Believe me when I say that I'm not inclined to sacrifice my comfort to my carrier. I simply believe that I shouldn't specifically cause him any more discomfort than is required to sit comfortably on him while being carried. As such, my clothing should not cause chaffing in his neck or compress my body to the point that it is harder on his neck and shoulders than my body would be without being clothed at all. Hence the cotton blend shorts were obviously easier on my carrier and in spite of his poor behavior, The shorts I wore the second time which were less soft and compressed my bottom more were simply a bad choice.
I have no doubt that my weight partially sitting on your neck as you carry me would be something of a problem and I appreciate that your sacrificing you comfort for mine is a requirement of your position. However, I would prefer that you simply communicate that you need to rest rather than risk injuring yourself or adjusting me to a less comfortable position.
If on a long outdoor ride, you allowed yourself to become injured and couldn't carry me any longer, I would be forced to walk back ,possibly alone to find medical assistance for you.
The other problem with you looking down is that you would have to trust the person sitting on you to guide you to some degree. This would require that you trust me to keep you on the path and warn you of obstacles in our path. If you fell or bumped into something we both might be injured.
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Audrey - the idea of a long outdoor ride is delightful. You can rest assured that my main focus would be on your comfort, enjoyment and safety.
But you are right: I should (and would) not push myself to the point of getting injured. Better to take a break, during which of course I could be your comfortable human chair. The scenario of you being forced to walk is unacceptable, and would be a huge disappointment for both of us.
One of my regular riders used to ride me without wearing any shoes: it was her way to convey my obligation to carry her for the entire time, as well as a demonstration of her trust in my ability to do so. (Besides, I could even massage her feet while carrying her!)
Regarding the posture of my neck, I usually bend it in a way that forces me to look at my own feet. This offers you a comfortable natural saddle, while allowing me to see the ground where I am stepping to avoid any incidents. Of course I won't see beyond a few feet ahead of me, but that actually helps me focus on the moment and avoid the temptation to think too much (just like blinders for a horse)... so that I can just obey your orders, and let you make every decision about where to go, which turns to take, and of course the speed and duration of the ride.
May I ask: does the above sound like a suitable solution to you?
And how would you convey your orders during the ride? Would you talk to me, or give me physical commands using your hands, legs and feet?
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It would be simpler to just talk to you. There is no reason to pretend that you're just a dumb animal who can't understand verbal commands. I could carry a crop but only to possibly direct you with taps or to get your attention to something that might be urgent to convey.
As for sitting on you during rest periods, I suppose the position and where I might sit would depend on your condition and what rest might be required. If your back is sore, I understand that pressure on your back might feel good or it may not. Being hunched over I might assume that your spine could relax with pressure on your lower back in the all fours position. The duration of the rest period might be a factor as well and my weight could negatively effect you if I just sat down on your stomach or chest for more than a few minutes.
If I feel that I must sit, your raised knees or thighs might serve . In that I will have been sitting on your shoulders and neck, there would be no more implied intimacy in sitting anywhere else.
The only requirement is that once I'm seated, I can remain so without being asked to change positions or move to another location before you are rested enough to continue. I found this very annoying while riding on my friends loaned carrier. Needless to say that no unnecessary touching should occur or be allowed. Your service should be as a beast of burden regardless of any other relationship or assumption. Otherwise I would feel uncomfortable in the matter.
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I love being used as a human chair during breaks, as it keeps me "in the zone" and focused on my commitment to your comfort. My preference is the all-fours position, because I can hold it for a very long time while stretching the two areas involved in shoulder riding: neck and shoulders. Whatever the position you choose, I would definitely hold it for as long as you wish.
And of course I would never take advantage of my position, or do anything to make you feel uncomfortable. My only focus would be on serving you as the best human horse I can be.
I hope we can make it happen one day! You could even loan me to your friend, as you guys take turns on the different mounts at your service...
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@ Audrey b,
I may have asked you this before, but how many times have you gotten on someone's shoulders without their permission?
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brad's shoulders wrote:
I love being used as a human chair during breaks, as it keeps me "in the zone" and focused on my commitment to your comfort. My preference is the all-fours position, because I can hold it for a very long time while stretching the two areas involved in shoulder riding: neck and shoulders. Whatever the position you choose, I would definitely hold it for as long as you wish.
And of course I would never take advantage of my position, or do anything to make you feel uncomfortable. My only focus would be on serving you as the best human horse I can be.
I hope we can make it happen one day! You could even loan me to your friend, as you guys take turns on the different mounts at your service...
Hi Brad's shoulders I agree with all your mount positions and cloth preferences u stated. You are a great thinker about sitting on shoulders and giving comforts. I would like to ride on your shoulders for long time.
Do u travel?
My weight is 46 kg
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@sunilrane53 - Thanks, I'll take that as a compliment. I travel to a certain extent, but I have never been in India. How about you?
@Audreyb - I would certainly travel nationally for the opportunity to serve you, just as described in this thread.
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Well I feel Audrey will be an excellent Rider..
Hope you people have real rides..soon..
Audrey you have not ridden someone from long time..why not give it a try..from someone in the group..up to you ..Girl..
Thanks..and sorry for jumping in between conversation.
brad's shoulders wrote:
@sunilrane53 - Thanks, I'll take that as a compliment. I travel to a certain extent, but I have never been in India. How about you?
@Audreyb - I would certainly travel nationally for the opportunity to serve you, just as described in this thread.
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brad's shoulders wrote:
@sunilrane53 - Thanks, I'll take that as a compliment. I travel to a certain extent, but I have never been in India. How about you?
@Audreyb - I would certainly travel nationally for the opportunity to serve you, just as described in this thread.
Hi brad's Shoullders
can you share your mail id?
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sunilrane53 wrote:
brad's shoulders wrote:
@sunilrane53 - Thanks, I'll take that as a compliment. I travel to a certain extent, but I have never been in India. How about you?
@Audreyb - I would certainly travel nationally for the opportunity to serve you, just as described in this thread.Hi brad's Shoullders
can you share your mail id?
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i like to ride small pony
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