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#1 2009-03-22 15:27:34

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Thanks Sam !

Thanks to Sam namaegaruu  ! I understand, Sam, that you are the one to be credited for all these great clips in the video section .. So, THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!

I particularly like those Tahiti dances : Adding artistic dancing, sensuality, and shoulder-ride is a great achievement, which should become most of us, in this board!

THGks again

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#2 2009-03-22 17:15:30

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Re: Thanks Sam !

You are welcome. It is nice to be appreciated. Yes, these are videos I uploaded.  Your response  shows that it can be nice to see gals shoulder-carried like royalty without the gals being mean to those carrying or otherwise serving the gals.

Gals, if I ever shoulder carry you it will be this way except you always will be appreciative also. See how smart Grace Jones and Terry Nunn are? They showed appreciation and rewarded and reinforced desired behavior with hugs and kisses. Dogs get petted. Horses get petted, hugged, and kissed. Men get hugged, sometimes caressed with ladies' fingers through mens' hair,  and kissed. See the difference gals?

Stacy Westfall and many other ladies on youtube.com can ride and control horses very effectively without tools of pain-compliance such as bridles, bits, whips, or spurs  and you can do or learn to do the same when shoulder riding or otherwise controlling your men. You can not even use those tools on a killer whale and some gals effectively ride and rule killer whales too.  I am a human killer whale.  Some men are. These ladies make it a pleasure for all these creatures to carry the ladies at the ladies' pleasure and joy.

Tina, why do you not try the same? Maybe you will get more shoulder rides and have to pay less money. You would shoulder ride me no other way, even if I were your husband or not. Yes, being over weight limits your opportunities and being well proportioned apparently gets at least one gal more shoulder rides. But, you are not the only one on video or in photos that is over weight and shoulder riding too. Some participants on this website who identify themselves as guys have also claimed to shoulder carry over wieght women. Being single will not stop you from getting shoulder rides. Being married to a jealous spouse whom you hate to frighten or diplease will limit your shoulder riding opportunities.

Liz, you appear to be a kind appreciative shoulder ridress who tries to make it a pleasure to be shoulder carried without cruelty and you claim to get many shoulder rides. When is the last time you had to pay for a shoulder ride? Even some of our self-proclaimed masochists claim that they would love to be one of YOUR dear horses."

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#3 2009-03-22 17:40:35

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Re: Thanks Sam !

The one great thing with you, Sam, is that you NEVER miss an opportunity to re-assess your standpoint ...Although no one, not even the worst self-proclained masochists, will ever challenge it on this forum, it seems you can't resist the  need to repeat your "credo" ...! smile

Just in case I would be one of these "self proclaimed  masochists", I want to tell you, Sam, that I respect and like very much your preferred riding style, and would be immensely happy if I could give one such ride to a Lady every day !!! However, I must add that I would prefer more "equestrian" rides, I mean rides which would put the man a little closer to a bio horse/donkey, i.e with bit and reins, and spurs and stirrups ...

But those are more difficult, if not impossible to implement in the open ... So, I'm happy to be gently ridden, "a la namaegaaru", while also nurturing the illusion, in my mind only, that I'm treated like a donkey ...  sad    smile

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#4 2009-03-22 17:59:32

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Re: Thanks Sam !

Yes, you must be sick of hearing what I write regarding my preferred riding style and you are the self-proclaimed masochist I am referring to.  I am still trying to influence new-comers. No, I never give up. Winston Churchill reportedly said, "Never give up. Ever, ever, ever."

You can be shoulder-ridden under bit, reins, and spurs in public. Just go to San Francisco, California, USA; not Riyad, Saudi Arabia.

Come to San Diego, California, USA near where I live, about 800 kilometers south of San Francisco  and you can be shoulder-ridden like a donkey or horse without bridle, reins, spurs, or whips. I believe you can be ridden under whip, spurs, bridle, and bit in San Diego too without being arrested or cited.

To each their own way. If I were a single woman with no lover to worry about, I would try to shoulder ride you like a horse or donkey without bit, bridles, whip, or spurs. If you were my husband we would occassionally do it nude, to climax.

Maybe you can refer somebody like you who is single with no lover to Tina.


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#5 2009-03-24 19:31:56

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In other words Equidum-you prefer riding by domination-not a more pleasing method-riding by co-operation,self respect and mutual understanding-not unlike Hitler in the 1930s.
Each to his own-I know that most horses would prefer to ridden by the latter method.


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#6 2009-03-24 22:24:47

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With all due respect, mastadon, your reference to hitler is both irrelevant and pathetic. hitler wanted to dominate the world and exterminate opponents. He didn't want to be ridden by female riders. Killing innocent people was his main achievement, and it's not the same as dreaming that nice girls will wish ride on our shoulders. Insane hatred of jews, gay, gypsies was his credo, and that has nothing to see with the pleasure to have one'sneck wrapped by feminine thighs. Starting a war and be responsible of the death of 50 000 000 people is very far from requesting to be ridden and sweat under the weight, and for the pleasure, of a nice Woman. Your comparison is appaling.

I think you should apologize for such an insulting speech

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#7 2009-03-24 22:43:05

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Rubbish-Hitlers main idea was domination and the creation of a super race.
And domination is what you are advocating in your riding.


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#8 2009-03-25 08:07:24

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equidum wrote:

With all due respect, mastadon, your reference to hitler is both irrelevant and pathetic. hitler wanted to dominate the world and exterminate opponents. He didn't want to be ridden by female riders. Killing innocent people was his main achievement, and it's not the same as dreaming that nice girls will wish ride on our shoulders. Insane hatred of jews, gay, gypsies was his credo, and that has nothing to see with the pleasure to have one'sneck wrapped by feminine thighs. Starting a war and be responsible of the death of 50 000 000 people is very far from requesting to be ridden and sweat under the weight, and for the pleasure, of a nice Woman. Your comparison is appaling.

I think you should apologize for such an insulting speech

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Hitler was against anything which was different to his own strange opinion. Women were regarded in that system as absolutely inferior human beings only useful to give birth to children.
Hitler himself and all of those people around him were extremely strange and after my opinion mostly with a quite strange mental attitude.
The background of many leading people was nothing but extremely criminal.
In a normal society with normal rules they would not have had any chance.
Even their sexuality was mostly strange and the only thing that was uniting them that was a deep hatred against any other people and they were after my opinion the worst criminals we ever have seen in history.
And as we know, Hitler did not even love his own people- as often he confirmed. His own people was just a tool for his strange and sick ideas and as he failed he confirmed that he would give a damn to his own people he was abusing over years.
People of this type seem to me mentally sick and any kind of erotics or sexuality was extremely suspect to them.
After my opinion a page of darkest history in human history.
In the Nazi's world there was only a very inferior and very reduced place for women and any kind of sexuality.

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#9 2009-03-25 11:02:09

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Thanks for your very valid comments, Frederik. However I'm afraid the stubborn won't hear them !

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#10 2009-03-25 14:51:03

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Re: Thanks Sam !

I am glad my comments sparked a spark of life among the members-I was getting fedup with the same dreary old monologues,well done those who answered-try and keep it up.

As one who was bombed both with V1 and V2s I would agree with you. Long may he rot in hell.


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#11 2009-03-25 17:15:11

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Yes, may Hitler mind his proper place in Hell. As late as June 2000 about twenty punks influenced by Hitler ganged up on my son, all were about ages 14 through 16 at the time, because my son had slapped a kid for making white supremacist comments against him being half-Japanese. Some of these kids had no white blood in them. People are crazier than anybody.

Hitler probably would have exterminated Equidum with the excuse that a woman would rather bow to a strong man than dominate a weakling and Hitler would have considered Equidum to be a weakling for submitting to being shoulder ridden under spurs, bit, or whip. 

Domination, meaning to command and control or rule over another comes in various forms. The command and control or domination by a killer whale traineress compares very little to  the domination by Nazis with their death camps, etc. A beautiful woman shoulder riding Equidum and lightly tapping him with a whip or spurs compares little to the actions of the Nazis. She and he are just playing. The Nazis certainly were not.

I say that a woman would rather be submissively indulged by a strong man than be dominated by a weakling. I believe that most women would say that it is a strong man that will take time and effort to submissively indulge his woman and children. I agree. Equidum, it appears that you have taken time and effort to submissively pamper your wife and children. Taurus, I suspect that you too have wrapped around the little finger of your wife and possibly children, grandchildren, and maybe even great-grandchildren.  And Liz, they obviously would like very much to do that for you too! (Of course I would too, under the right circumstances.)


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#12 2009-03-25 17:44:11

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Re: Thanks Sam !

Not under duress Sam.


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#13 2009-03-25 19:29:53

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I totally agree. Nobody should be under duress when indulging the other.


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#14 2009-03-26 08:18:04

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I think most people fail to see that the Hitler-System was founded from the beginning to eliminate all other people who did not fit into their shape.
Being deviant in your outlook, maybe you were too smal or too weak or if your attitide was out of their shape, maybe you loved another type of music or even if you had a different outlook on life, this all could bring you in one of those many prison camps.
As we know, most of those leading persons in prison camps were indeed real criminals and before that regime anything else but respected.
Those young guys with their lomg hair and rotten clothes with a beer bottle in their hands would have been the very first prosoners in one f those camps.
The Nazis wanted to clean young people who were obeying to orders like soldiers and who spent their leisure time not in bars or discotheques but in exhausting military games  over the week-ends.
Young boys who only loved Jazz-music were sent into camps without any discussion.
All people had to march the same line and of course there were many young people who were really fed up with all those stupid military games and many would have preferred quite other things in their leisure time.
Reading the wrong book, havon the wrong attitutude to sexuality or just having the wrong opinion about life, all that could bring you into one of those camps.
Being in one of those camps, no judge and no court could ever help you, because the camps were based on the mere opinion of the police.
Individuality was a crime in any sense and all those who only were suspicious to think different had to be aware getting imprisonned at any time.
Sexuality did not exist and during the years of that system the Nazis had various actions where whole groups of certain parts of the people were brought into those camps where they were forseen as real slaves for that Nazi system.
Opponents or people who were onyl suspicious to be opponents had after the sick ideas the last right to toil for the ruling Nazis like slaves up to their death.
This way christian motivated young people were sent to the camps and the next action all young people like lesbians and homosexuals were sent there and so on.
And lazy young people who just were hanging around like many young people today they were sent at first into the camps for really enforced labour at 6 days a week over 12 and 14 hours.
The vast majority of Nazi leaders were before people from the lower middle-class and quite often from the social trash with very simple ideas of life and anything that wasout of their mind was regarded as dangerous.
Very very few of the Nazi leaders were successful before in their jobs or professions.
Hitler for example was nothing but a lazy guy hanging around like a hoboe without a job and without money being backed by the government and othe people. He never worked or had a job.
Goebbels was hanging around with his parents not working and living at the cost of his parents and Himmler was trying to breed a few chicken.
The Nazi leaders were anything else but positive examples. They were lazy, arrogant and real parasites and underdogs to the community of working people before they could rule.
In their simple point of view just according to the opinion of the lower class a women was regarded as completely inferior and therefore the Nazis wanted to have a woman at home, getting children and that was it.
Ponyplay or any other deviant sexual attitude was regarded as a perversion and perverted people came instantly into the camps.
Thousands of homosexuals were the first in those camps.
The life under the rule of the Nazis was not much pleasant and everybody who stepped out of their line- however it might have been- was regarded as a dangerous enemy of the system.
And the life of an inferior human being did not count at all from the very first day of their rule.
And it is absolutely wrong to think that most people were glad with that system. Especially many young people who were not much different to young people we have today did think different but a simple remark at the wrong time at the wrong place could bring you in the camp.
Sexuality did not exist at all in the public at those times, except the fact that women had to get as many children as possible. Sexuality as we like to understand toady was regarded as a deviant attitude with all consequences.
What the Nazi-leaders did that was their own business and they could do what they wanted and the Röhm-affair was a quite good chance to kill thousands of homosexuals or those who were only suspected to be homosexual because Röhm as the leader of the SA was obviously a homosexual and by this action thousands of other people who were inconvenient were liquidated.
In a few words: The Nazis only accepted "clean" sex between men and women and the only purpose of sexuality was getting children.
Any other kind of sexuality was regarded as a dangerous perversion which could bring bitter end mostly deadly consequences.

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#15 2009-03-26 11:38:10

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Thks, Frederik ! I think it's good from time to time to remember what hitler's regime was really based on, and made of ! And we should make sure we don't banalize it by sometimes wrongly referring to it !

This being said, Frederik, it is true that many German people opposed hitler, but it is true also that the majority supported him. Because he promised, and, for some time, actually offered a way out of the crisis for all, and also heeled the German frustration from the 1914/1918 humiliating defeat. I don't remind that to accuse the Germans in any way: I am a 200% reconciled friend of Germany, and chagrined to see that our two nations are not coming even closer together ! I remind it because, in the hard economic times we are going to live, politicians will come up everywhere with wonderful nationalist rescue plans, protectionnism, isolationism, racism, promoting new moral order of all sorts ... and that was the cradle of nazism, that was the very trap in which Germans fell in 1933, as every other nation could have fallen, in the same way, and still could to-day, if we forgot what happened then !

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#16 2009-03-26 12:13:58

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Equidum, I completely agree with you.
But please notice : At the last free elections in 1932 only! 33 % were voting for the Hitler-Party!!
And that means almost 70 % did not vote for Hitler.
So it is absolutely wrong that a majority stood behind Hitler.
You can check this fact in Wikipedia.
After overtaking the rule the first steps were to put all opponents into camps and newspapers came under strict control.
And from that day the only chance for the man in the street remained to agree or to arrive in a camp.
Those who could afford left the country.

I agree with you that nationalism and chauvinism belong to a time which has gone a long time ago. Today in modern europe these things seem to me just kinky and stupid.
But indeed the realationship between the nearest neighbours in europe (France/Germany) was much better years ago and at the moment I do not see that it will come better. Sarkozy is playing the full play of chauvinism which reminds me to a resurrection of Napoleon.
But we write the year 2009 and 1753 and it seems to that in Paris the upper class did not notice yet that we are in 2009 in the center of Europe after 3 wars between France and Germany and a period of more than 60 years of peace in Europe.

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#17 2009-03-26 14:48:04

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Re: Thanks Sam !

We are getting much off-topic in this thread and in a danger zone as we head more and more into politics. These things can go wrong in forums where we all are protected behind an anymous shield at the computer. However, I personally find this discussion very interesting.

I can recommend this book:
"Defying Hitler: A Memoir" by Sebastian Haffner (Raimund Pretzel)

Haffner also wrote this book, I have not read it myself yet though:
"Jekyll and Hyde: An Eyewitness Analysis of Nazi Germany"

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#18 2009-03-26 17:04:51

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Nick is right and we're kind of hi-jacking this non political forum. I apologize to all... But we did it with very lofty ideas didn't we wink wink  ?

I will check that book, Nick, thanks for the info .... ( However, I saw last week a TV interview < On Arte channel > of a former SS captain called Hafner .... I suppose they are different people ?! ).

Frederik, I agree on the regrettable poor state of the franco german relation, and also that our little Napoleon Sarkozy is largely responsible for that ... Let's hope that the growing economic crisis will bring us all back on track !

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#19 2009-03-26 17:23:16

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This is a world economy like or not. We were in it together in the 1930s and we are in it together now. None of us will win by making the other lose. Some Americans think they won World War II which partly was a result of world wide economic problems back then. My mother told me that nobody wins a war, just a lot of people on all sides get hurt or killed  which happens now, always has happened, and always will.

Rereg, I am so glad our two countries have not fought since Murmansk, Archangel, and Vladivostok. Sorry about that. I do not see how any proper American would want to fight the people of Maria Sharapova, Anna Kournikova, Olga Korbut, Nellie Kim, or Liudimilla Touricheva, all of whom many proper red-blooded Americans would love to shoulder carry instead. Me too, without any of my normal rules. If this worked, think of all the people I would help save from war, and what enjoyment I would have.

Liz, I will do the same for you too without my usual rules if this saves us from war. You know how sad this would make me if I had to shoulder carry you to prevent a war such that I would be less concerned with how my wife feels or how Roger feels, right? Actually that would be horrible too. William Shakespeare said, "Hell hath no fury like a lady's scorn." The title, "Missus" is not an abbreviation for the title, "Mistress," for nothing. Mine has it where I hate upsetting her and love pleasing her.  If Roger ever forgets, he will relearn. Us guys do not like displeasing you, Linda, Hong or you other ladies either. Also, yes I would still care how Roger feels because I must do unto others as I would have others do unto me and I always want others to care how I feel. Also, you would be MOST  displeased if I failed to care how your gentleman feels such that you would refuse to shoulder ride me ever again after preventing a war under ANY  other circumstances and Hell would hath no such fury.

It would be better to work this economic mess out intelligently and peacefully so all can thrive and under the right circumstance guys like me, Taurus, Equidum, Frederik, Nick, and the rest of you guys can give fine shoulder rides to fine ladies from all over the world. Face it guys, gals are more willing to shoulder ride us and do other fun and nice things with us when we behave better by avoiding unnecessary fighting or quarreling.  Yes, Nick and Louie, we must return to discussing  shoulder riding.

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#20 2009-03-26 23:29:44

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Re: Thanks Sam !

It made an interesting interlude-perhaps we are not such fuddy-duddies after all.


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#21 2009-03-27 10:40:49

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Please, Mastadon ..... What on earth is a fuddy-duddy .. ? I didn't learn that word at school sad     !

Bu yes, it was a fine interlude after all ! smile

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#22 2009-03-27 13:39:15

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Fuddy-duddy

You did not go to the right school-it is

A stuffy or foolishly old fashioned person-first appeared in Texas-The Galvaston Daily News in 1889.

I rembember it well.


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#23 2009-03-27 14:48:06

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Oh yes, thank you ! I knew his mother very well ................... smile

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#24 2009-03-27 14:51:05

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If you are really in to this-there is a Fuddy Duddy Fudge made in Depoe Bay Oregon.
How about that.


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