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#151 2025-09-04 03:49:09

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Re: All Fours (hands and knees carrying)

MissBaron;

I completely agree with your first paragraph and yes, you are correct. If you were ugly, honestly that would be a turn off. I’m attracted to women, not men and I think that’s a hang up with me if let’s say you allowed Wayne to ride me. It would make me feel very uncomfortable. I’ve never seen a picture of you nor do I know how tall you are and your features other than weighing 133 pounds. Something tells me you’re probably attractive though. Julia on the other hand? No clue if she is attractive? I just know from your comments that she weighs 260 pounds!

From a couple years of interacting on this forum, what is your opinion of how I would look to you?

Your commands make sense and honestly, those wouldn’t warrant (in my opinion) a response from me. You might catch me off guard when you’re sitting on me while I rest and you kick me in the thighs or stomach as you highlight (verbally) the things that pissed you off during your ride.

After riding me for 30 minutes and allowing me to rest for 20 minutes or so, how long in the arena type setting would you want to ride me for on the second round?

When the arena ride is completely over, how do you hope I look and feel from your perspective?

How would we walk away and leave? Would you ask me how I felt? Make small talk? Make me carry you on my shoulders to your car?

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#152 2025-09-04 14:55:14

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JayRey8585:

Time for full honesty? I'm 5ft 2in tall and my statistics are 34c-25-41 . yes I have a big ass.
I'm  blond with blue eyes if that matters.  Since you would consider it as a punishment I would only let Wayne ride you or even sit on you to either punish you or train you to  submit completely to me and I really don't have time to fully train a man at this time in my life.
As for Julia, She is actually shapely considering her size and she has a pretty face. She could be a plus sized model if she was just a little younger.

I imagine you as being sort of lean/muscular, rather angular in shape  and a plain  but masculine kind of face.

After your rest period I  imagine  going for at least another half hour, though I would probably get bored and sit on your back after about 10 minutes of your 20 minute rest period. If I wasn't telling you about your failures   during the first ride I would probably just sit there  and ignore you or chat with another rider.

You should be good and lathered ( perspiring) after our arena riding, but there should be enough  left in you to carry me to my car, probably while I was sitting on your shoulders. I could  of course just walk to my car but if it was raining or snowing, you would have to carry me to avoid getting my boots wet.

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#153 2025-09-04 15:13:55

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MissBaron;

Blond and blue eyed? Perfect! Ha. Big ass? Don’t know what that means necessarily, but it can’t be that big because you’re 133 pounds. smile 5’2” - little thing, but sounds like you pack a punch when you want too. Let me guess, your shoe size is a 6?

I’m 6’2”. 205 pounds. Light brown hair. Blue eyes. Well-kept short beard (due to my profession) strong shoulders, arms, back and legs. Again, I work out daily with rest days every third day because of my profession. This would benefit me greatly being your beast of burden it sounds like. I feel I owe you a head shot of me, but don’t feel comfortable doing that on this forum. I say that because I have enjoyed our conversations and respect your opinions and demeanor!

I think you would be impressed with my features and looks or said differently, like what you saw. When on all fours, you would notice my back looks like it was built just for your “big ass” to sit on comfortably. smile

For the record, I would let Julia sit on me or ride if you agreed to it. It might be interesting if you lead me around with her riding. I don’t think Wayne would have to be used to punish or train me. I think you would be impressed how well I would follow your orders and try to do what you were wanting at that point in time. Fatigue would set in and that’s where your demanding personality would kick in to give me motivation through spurring or your crop to keep doing what you wanted. That thought of you riding me is interesting after a few years of communication.

I agree I would be sweaty after the two hours spent serving under you. It would be interesting to me. I would still have enough to be able to let you mount my shoulders and neck (I pay attention in other conversations we’ve had) to make you comfortable up there and enjoy the trip to the car.

Why would you think if there was women there (arena) and a few of them demanded their human horses to be naked? I saw this in another chat and honestly never thought of what others might want of their carrier or what they want their appearance to be.

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#154 2025-09-05 14:49:24

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JayRey8585:

I mean my ass is big by proportion to the rest of me. Not really fat but people notice.
Yes! my shoe size id 6  and I can't walk in heels that are over 3 inches unless they are platform(if you know what tat is).

I assume your shoulders and back are strong and hopefully broad and muscular.
I've always liked sitting on  a broad muscular back and I feel a sense of power when I do. I'm not strong myself and I'm to lazy to exercise so I guess it's the contrast that I enjoy, my power vs your? I really don't rationalize it anymore.

It sounds like you could support Julia  on your back and I know she wouldn't be shy about sitting on it. I doubt  you could crawl very far under her but I know it would amuse her if you tried  and of course I would give her permission and let you try.
It would be amusing for me to find a reason to punish you by letting Wayne sit on your back just to see if you could get him off of you. I have seen Wayne stay on top of quite a few pretty strong guys   and while I wouldn't let him humiliate you like he id some of them, it would be interesting as well as amusing to find out what would happen.

I can understand why a  woman would prefer sitting on a carrier's bare back if she was somewhat bare bottomed herself, like wearing a string bikini or a thong.  But  having the carrier fully naked? I wouldn't care  of course  but I suppose it would be to humiliate the carrier or  keep him vulnerable on his whole body. As I told you, I prefer sitting on bare flesh but just having your shirt off  accomplishes that.

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#155 2025-09-05 15:36:30

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MissBaron;

As for you butt, I get what you are saying. Platform heels - had no clue what they were, but looked them up. Got it! Haha.

Yes, my back and shoulders are broad and strong/muscular. Matter of fact, you can see the muscles that run along each side of my spine stick out down my back. Sounds like they would provide a great seat for you to sit your butt down on. You would feel them “work” under you I’m sure.

Do you think you would find me attractive?

In this type of setting, would Julia use spurs or a crop on me to get me to move you think? My back could support her standing still, but crawling might be short lived?

Ugh. lol. The thought of you wanting to punish me by letting Wayne sit on me is scary for reasons I’ve said before. How did Wayne humiliate his human horses that you saw before when sitting on them?

I’m shocked you don’t feel a sense of ownership and you’re eager to share your strong human horse.

Yes, as your horse it would be odd to see a fully naked men being ridden. What makes you think their female riders might want them to be naked and feel vulnerable from a riders perspective? Would you ride up to a woman riding a naked man and check him out and stop and sit on me and chat with the female rider?

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#156 2025-09-06 01:59:56

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JayRey8585:

I like sitting on a man's muscular back with my "fat ass"smile  feeling those muscles move under me is delicious and  I feel both more feminine and more powerful, as if you built those muscle especially to serve me.

Of course I would find you attractive. I'm a woman and I'm attracted to masculine men. But my first impulse is to own him.  That's why I consented to marry my ex husband. I wanted to own him and  marriage was  the only way  I could be sure to own him completely.

I suspect that Julia would just wear heels and one of her skirts just as she did sitting on handyman.  I have no doubt she would  put all her weight on you and  find a way to make you crawl. She would expect you to give out under her but don't expect her to get off  if you fall or go down on your forearms like handyman did.
Of course I would let her sit on you. she's one of my closest friends and she is a woman and deserves to be served and entertained.  I would warn you privately  not to insult her in any way.

As fort Wayne, he wasn't exactly "riding' the guys he was sitting on, he was wrestling them.
You wouldn't believe he could beat some of those guys but he has tricks he uses and usually ends up winning with the bigger guy begging to be let up while Wayne  sits on his back or chokes the guy out and sits on his chest. He's really something of a show off but the audience loves it.
NO! I don't want him wrestling you either. I just wanted to explain about the riding thing.

I don't need or want  to ride a naked man or even look at him unless he was somehow really attractive. But I can appreciate the vulnerability of a guy with all his flesh exposed and at the mercy of a rider wearing spurs and sitting on his back.  I don't know if I would ask ay questions about the riders choice of his nudity. If he/she decided to tell me without my asking, I would listen but I wouldn't bring up the subject.

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#157 2025-09-06 15:02:08

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MissBaron,

From my perspective as your horse, it would feel good having your 135 pound “fat ass” wink sitting firmly on my strong back, feeling you shift and adjust yourself until your comfortable and waiting for your command.

I think I could handle Julia for a longer period than handyman based on strength and age alone. I’m competitive, so I would do everything in my power not to collapse under her so you or her couldn’t get any satisfaction out of me! smile

It would be fun to feel you bounce your “fat ass” on my back several times testing it at first. I do think you would like what you see and feel. Double bonus.

As your horse, it would be interesting to listen to your conversations with other women about their horse and what you and them say about me.

How would a male human horse be more vulnerable naked with his rider versus me with no shirt on and you wearing spurs?

After the ride, would you introduce yourself to me and talk to me?

Oh and Wayne wouldn’t want to wrestle me; that might not end well for him! wink

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#158 2025-09-06 18:24:00

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JayRey8585:


When the riding sessions over I would probably who I am and talk to you  in a normal manner unless you did something I really disliked while you were serving as my horse. You're just a person  and not my slave.

I usually talk normally to handyman  after a session or just talk casually or I just dismiss him.

Perhaps you could handle Julia for a while but if she was determined to have you collapse I think she could. If I wanted her to make you go down the way handyman did I might sit on you with her smile
You might last longer than handyman did but it would just be a matter of time.

Fun bouncing on your back?  You might like the feeling and my ass is soft, but gravity is on my side in that situation and I might not have any mercy.  My ex husband could tell you that.

Since your body is  likely better than that of the guys the other riders are sitting on, I think another rider I was talking to might suggest  trading for a short time. There is something about a strong guy down on all fours that makes a woman want to sit on his back.
Of course we could talk about other thing to many to mention.
Personally, I enjoy talking about disciplining  carriers  but not everyone is comfortable  with that subject.

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#159 2025-09-06 18:38:09

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Re: All Fours (hands and knees carrying)

MissBaron;

You made me smile/laugh out loud when telling me that if you really wanted me to go down, you would join her sitting on my back! What would you both do when I went down?! Hope you would be happy with that! lol. I would be pissed I failed. Ugh. Ha.

If you joined her sitting on me, where would you sit on me at?!

As for you bouncing on my back, yes I’m curious to feel what that would feel like? How hard would you bounce? Soft ass - sounds good! Ha.

If you were stopped, sitting on me and talking to another female rider and she said, “can I sit on him (ME) and take him on a short ride?” How would you respond to her? What would you do if her horse was naked and just standing there on all fours?

Back to this question, how is a fully naked human horse more vulnerable than me wearing shorts, knee pads and no shirt?

I also want to hear more about what you would say to another rider about disciplining carriers. This intrigues me from my perspective because I would be under your ass and weight as you talk about this, paying no attention to me. It’s interesting!

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#160 2025-09-07 15:14:58

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JayRey8585:

If I were o sit on your with Julia, I suppose  I would sit where there was room on you. Julia  takes up a lot of space:).   But I guess I might sit in front of Julia , like sitting on your neck to make sure you go down faster.

I think that if I bounced, even my soft ass would  become a problem for you  because I would really drop on you.

If I was just sitting there and talking to another woman and she asked to sit on and ride you, my reply would be "of course! he's just a mindless beast, be my guest." Of course I would caution you to behave and not embarrass me. and before you ask, No I wouldn't refuse to let her sit on or ride you if she wasn't pretty and was heavier or old.  She is still a woman regardless of those things and deserves to be served while you chose the roll of  being a beast of burden.

As for her naked carrier, I would probably sit on his back like he was just a bench without paying much attention to him.  I've seen more than enough naked men to be pretty much uninterested.

A naked man is more  vulnerable  because  his genitals are  "on display" and men are very guarded about that area. Have their "balls" exposed  to potential pain .

As for talking about disciplining a carrier, It would be about the use of crops and where to use them, spurs  and whether to use  roller spurs every time or just occasionally and  does humiliation work  on guys who submit to being sat on?  Personally I don't like  causing excessive pain  as discipline but I firmly  feel that  a man serving a woman isn't really serving her unless it costs him something.

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#161 2025-09-07 16:30:38

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MissBaron;

Lol, to Julia taking up lots of space on my back and I promise you, when I asked you where would you sit on me with her, I literally said out loud to myself, “she will tell me she’ll sit on my neck!” And you sure did!! smile

The most I might do is make a groan if it started to hurt with you bouncing. I won’t give you the satisfaction of letting you know it hurts though. wink

Of course your answer would be, “of course! He’s just a mindless beast; be my guest!” lol. How did I know you’d say that?! As your horse, I do think I would count down the minutes and hope to hear you say to her, “ok, bring him back over here, so I can get my strong horse back!” Ha! What would you say to me out loud when telling me to “behave and not embarrass you.” Or what do you mean by that? I’m betting she might be ugly and I’m sure she wouldn’t have the body like you do (attractive). I think I’m starting to picture you or have an idea of what you might look like!

I would hope you would be firm with her horse until you or her decided to trade back. Like spur his sides if his back sags, or if he moves or if she has a crop hit him with it! Haha to you seeing many of men naked so you wouldn’t care he is.

Makes sense to why they are more vulnerable. Women would never mess with his balls as he serves as a human horse though. wink

As for your conversation, expand on where to hit him at with a crop and how you think the use of spurs should be. Whether or not to use roller spurs every time? How you think one should humiliate their human horse and how does one do that? This is interesting to me and especially if you were sitting on me stopped having this conversation and I could hear it, lowering my head from time to time and seeing your boots with your spurs attached to them -feeling your weight sitting firmly on me, with you comfortable on my back and knowing you are not thinking about me at all at this point. I’m your horse and my back muscles are working under your “fat ass” smile and my arms and legs are supporting you as you enjoy this conversation with another female rider while you sit on your horse (ME)!

Also, as you sit and talk about things would you say anything to the female rider if you noticed her human horse’s back was sagged some under her? How would you handle your horse if his back sagged under you? Also, if you traded me out for 10 minutes and the lady said, “take my horse and ride him and tell me what you think” what would you say and how would you be towards him? Maybe she and him are new to this and she is looking for advice and direction? Would you be easy on him if you knew he was new to this during these 10 minutes?

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#162 2025-09-08 02:17:48

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JayRey8585:

Of course I would sit on your neck. It would be difficult try to stay seat  if I sat on your head and I think  I could stay on your neck and make you go down and say there.

Bouncing on your back would eventually hurt you and I have the advantage of  bouncing as long as I want and taking breaks.
I can start and stop when I feel like , bouncing for a few minutes  then stopping only to start again when your back is sore.  trust me on this, it really works.

In our scenario, I would treat you like a beast of burden and I would want you to know that you would be nothing more to me. I wouldn't be more or less inclined  to let another woman ride  or sit on you  if she was old fat and ugly or  beautiful. I would let her ride until she chose to trade back . I would expect her to trade back after about 10 minutes or so unless you collapsed  under her and embarrassed me .
I would be concerned of course if  your failure  hurt her feelings. 

I wouldn't be concerned with her carriers performance. I wouldn't bother with correcting his position or care  if he whined etc. I would just be sitting on him without concern. But I would spur his flanks if he tried to talk or complain verbally and spur him harder if  he tried talking to me a second time.

I'm not going to invent an entire conversation I might have . I would probably just chat and perhaps ask about her relationship with the guy she was sitting on.

As for my "fat ass" on your back, I  feel that your back muscles exist for that and many other purposes that serve women.  As far as humiliating you or any carrier   I can think of dozens of ways.  I  noticed that straight guys hate having  a gay man mess with them so that  could be one way smile

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#163 2025-09-08 04:13:04

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MissBaron;

If you after sitting on me neck for a minute or two (full weight; fat ass rested firmly on it smile ) what would you and Julia do once I collapsed to the ground?!

Ok, I believe you about you bouncing, but the lady (friend) who has ridden me several times will do this for a while and I’m able to bare it and get through it! She weighs around 150 pounds I would guess.

I have no doubt you would be pissed at me if I for some odd reason I collapsed under her. What punishment I would get from you once you came over to me, I’m not sure. I’m willing to bet you would verbally chew me out.

Sorry, didn’t mean for you to get the impression I wanted you to invent a conversation for me, but rather was asking your philosophy on the subject you know a lot about.

I’m starting to think that yes, my strong back, shoulder and muscles on such were for you to sit on to some degree. You would enjoy it and might get a nice feeling down there as well. smile

Let me ask you this. It’s a hypothetical question to a degree of course, but fun to discuss. If I was to take
Off work for five days and with your permission come and be your human horse/slave for those five days, in a high level overview, how would you use me during those five days? Better asked, what would those five days look like for me?

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#164 2025-09-08 15:34:39

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JayRey8585:

With you face down and Julia and I both sitting on your back and neck,
I think we would torture you for a while.
Not horrible tortures of course. Just  bouncing and grinding. Maybe some tickling or pinching. Being face down with two of us sitting on you  you would be so vulnerable that tormenting you would be irresistible, especially for Julia because she still has some resentment toward men. We would probably be laughing about your predicament  and at least talk about switching places:)

I may be lighter than that lady who bounces on you but my "fat ass" will  feel like a bolder or something  when I suddenly start bouncing and  dropping my full weight on your sore back. If you could ask my ex husband about that, he could tell you about how it felt on his back and chest.

Actually, my philosophy is really just an extension of my feelings and promotion of feminine supremacy.  I feel that men exist to serve and entertain women. I know a part of you at least agrees since submitting to women is part of why I could sit on you and ride you. After all, I couldn't beat you up and force you into much of anything:)

yes, sitting on your muscular back would probably feel good, especially as your muscles move under me while riding.
If you ever watched a woman or girl fighting with a man or boy, you know that the woman is going to sit on the guy or at least try to.  Perhaps you had a play-fight with a girlfriend at some point? 

If I had you for  five days I guess we would do moist of the things we talked about here. I don't know right now if anything else might happen or if I might decide to try to  turn you into a younger version of handyman. It took me several months of dating to completely dominate my ex and beside that, you could just be a closet submissive  who only wants your own fetishes   satisfied.

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#165 2025-09-08 17:33:28

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MissBaron;

Why am I not shocked that once you got me down, Julia would stay on my back you would stay sitting on my neck with your little “fat ass”?! smile I am so ticklish too it’s horrible. That would be torture! I bet that I could go from being forced to collapse to the floor, to Julia get off my back and me being able to get back to the all fours position with you on me. Oh my! If you and Julia switched places, she might break my neck.

Your “fat ass” wouldn’t feel like a boulder! wink

Yes, I think you are right. I feel like I would only want to submit to attractive women or those that have nice bodies (big or small) and maybe not the cutest face, but a person’s face isn’t everything. I honestly think that’s why I would stress/worry if you were going to let another female sit on me or ride me. In my mind I would think, what if she is ugly? Ha. It might cause to me act up a bit, just like a bio horse might.

As for the four or five days, it would be interesting to see how many times I was ridden and for how long. Five days; 24 hours per day. I think to myself, would she take me to work and use me as a chair. Make me carry you through the warehouse on my shoulders? When home from work, have me get in the car and go to the arena. Oh, I happen to be good with my hands. I tore out my entire bathroom at my lake house this weekend and put new plumbing in, repaired two joists, put a new floor back in, and hung drywall. Still have to mud and sand the drywall, install the new shower, toilet and floating vanity & sink. I might give handyman a run for his money! smile

Are your toes painted currently? If so, what color. I think you can tell a lot about a woman just by looking at her feet. I’m guessing they are painted red?!

Would you want to see a head shot of me and give your opinion?

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#166 2025-09-09 03:57:15

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JayRey8585:

It occurred to me that Julia  would possibly break your neck if I switched with her.  But I think it  threatening you with it would be enough to keep you from  trying anything .
Actually, I think Julia would be sitting on your head as well as your neck if we traded .

I think that you probably could get up if it was only me sitting on you. But I think I would try to make even that difficult.
Yes if you are ticklish I think we would use that as a torture. Feeling you struggle under us would be  delicious fun and neither Julia or I are likely to to show any mercy. We would sit on you and tickle until our fingers were to tired to keep doing it.  I have done his to guys all my life and Almost literally "all"  my life.

If I traded with another woman rider, it shouldn't matter if she was attractive  to you or not.
While in our scenario you must obey and serve her regardless. 
Unless you would rather I traded with a man??? I know Wayne would be happy to sit on you if you find a man more attractive sad.

My toes are painted rose at the moment and I'll stop having them painted  in my next pedicure since I won't be wearing open toed shoes or sandals much more this year.

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#167 2025-09-09 15:57:17

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MissBaron;

Yea, if Julia sat on my neck & head, that would be the last vacation time I took from work. I’d be coming back in a body bag!

I promise you, I’d be able to get up off the ground back to all fours with you sitting on me! You can try to make it hard, but if you spurred me trying to stop me or something, that would only make me more determined to get up! smile

In this scenario I would be your property; your human horse. What would make you want to lone me out and watch another female ride me? What do you get out of that? Would it make you jealous to a degree even though you loaned me out? I would hate that it wasn’t your “fat ass” that was sitting on me!

Damn I’m good; red is close to rose. I have guessed right on a few random things about you!

I would be interested to see if you would decided to shoulder ride me around the arena or on a trail somewhere if I was there for a week? This intrigues me to think about and what things you might make me do. I think I’m pretty certain that you would sit on me quite a bit over these five days in various ways?

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#168 2025-09-09 16:23:02

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JayRey8585:

I think you would probably suffocate rather than being squashed by Julia's  ass. She have very soft  skin  and obviously a fat ass. I have seen porno videos of vey big women sitting on a man's head  and I assume that those guys didn't die.

I wouldn't spur you to keep you down but I would bounce and drop on you. I think I should be allowed to do that .

I like watching people  ride other people and watching another woman sitting on your back  wouldn't make me jealous at all. It would be like seeing what I look like sitting on your back  and you would still be serving a woman and I like to see men  submit to  women and serve  women  as they should.

It amuses me to think about riding you everywhere for a week. I mean having you carry me  on the street and even into my business. This is obviously not a rational idea but just fun to imagine:).  Perhaps  I would replace my office chair with your back  like I once threatened to do to one of  my male employees and just sit on you behind my desk all day long.
That employee is really worthless  and serving as a chair would be the only thing he will ever be  good for.

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#169 2025-09-09 16:57:25

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MissBaron;

I guess and I’ll take your word for it. It doesn’t sound fun having 260 pounds of Julia sitting on my head and neck even if she has a “soft ass” ha.

Yes, YOU and your 135 pound frame could do whatever you wanted to me. I don’t disagree so if that meant when I was trying to get up on all fours you could bounce.

Yes, it is amusing to think about. You could ride me anywhere(!) and it’s not that far-fetched of a reality. And see, I think you would love sitting on my back so much, you would crave it over those five days. I don’t disagree and think you would work me out really well - so much so, I wouldn’t have to go to the gym those five days.

In this situation, what would be off limits for you to do to me in these five days?

I remember you talking about that employee.

If you are as attractive as I think you are, I would be worried that I might get hard the first time you mounted me. Ugh.

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JayRey8585:

Yes it's possible that Julia would suffocate you by sitting on your head. She almost did that for real to one guy that I know of. That's why I cautioned you about insulting her. That fool was a lot smaller than you  but I doubt that anyone could push her off if  she sat on his head the way she did that day.

I have  gotten handyman to get back up on all fours while I was sitting on his back even when he was tired. But I just sat there without bouncing ,just keeping my weight on him. It was fun.

No I think it would be too strange for people to see me sitting on your shoulders  in a public setting .  My employees (almost all women)  would find it amusing if I used you as  a chair in the office but I don't think any of them would object . They know my feelings  but of course not everything about my lifestyle.

OK, what would be "off limits" would be real intimacy. Yes I mean sex between us in any form. Yes I  could be tempted but I don't become intimate with my slaves and that is what you would be that week.

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MissBaron;

I wouldn’t talk to Julia so in return, I shouldn’t piss her off.

If you were to use me as your chair at work on a Tuesday, how would you bring me inside? Introduce me to some employees or have me follow you into your office? Would you be embarrassed if an employee came into your office and saw you sitting on me inside of your desk chair and asked you about it? What might you say?!

How would you discipline me if I for some reason did something with my back, arms or my legs that you didn’t like when sitting on me? What would you do with me when you weren’t sitting on me or having me do something?

Totally agree with your “Off limits”. That’s why I would be embarrassed if that happened to me. Would you comment on it to me or someone else if you noticed I got hard once or twice?

If you had just got done using me as a chair or horse at your house one evening and you noticed I was laying on my back, would that prompt you to then sit on my chest or face/side of face just because you could? Seeing what would go through your mind seeing that?

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#172 2025-09-09 21:35:01

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JayRey8585:

By not talking to Julia you might  also piss her off!   It would be better if you soke very little but did so  briefly and respectfully.

If I brought you to work I wouldn't ride you into the office . The other ladies  wouldn't find it strange because I have men going in for private conversations ,guys like purchasing agents and other business people. Any of  my employees would probably just giggle if they came into my office while I was sitting on you and they might share it with  my other employees, but  wouldn't  be shocked.
I know two of the girls  would  love seeing you down there serving as my chair. They are both divorced from husbands who deserted them and they seem to hate men in general. I can imagine one who would wish she was sitting on you herself and not in a nice way.

If you displeased me  while you served in place of my chair , I would reseat myself  hard and probably  kick you with my spiked heels  a few times. I would let you figure out what  you did wrong . Those shoes are a little out of date but I love those sharp metal tipped  heels.

I would expect you to get an erection while I was sitting on you at first and I wouldn't care. But after a few hours of have you bear all of my weight  with my ass shifting  around on your back, you would almost certainly have a bit of back pain and  you wouldn't be hard any longer.

If I felt like it and you were laying on your back at my house,  I would sit on your chest , either straddling or sideways.  A man stretched out like that is an invitation to be sat on  for me and a lot of people I know.   By chance, one evening handyman was installing a phone jack  in my living room he happened to slide out from under the table I use as a desk for my P.C.   
I  just  stood up from where I was sitting and stepped  astride him and sat on his chest.
I was wearing a short skirt and just a thong underneath and I plopped down on his chest, sitting on his breastbone and pinned his arms with my shins. Handyman was shocked and  looked up from between my thighs without saying a word. He was obviously looking up my skirt  and I just started slapping his face rather sharply for looking up at my crotch. 
I did it all impulsively  but I just sat there  for several minutes occasional slapping his face before getting up. I never gave him any explanation because I didn't have ab explanation. then I told hm about another repair I needed and he said he would tend to it a few days later.  We never spoke of the incident again. He didn't know if I was  angry or punishing him . To be honest, I don't care what he thought of it.

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#173 2025-09-09 21:56:30

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MissBaron;

If not talking to her when she is sitting on me or riding, what short things would you suggest me to say to not piss her off?!?!?!

Oh boy. Would you invite the two divorced women to sit on me? How much do they weigh?!

Oh shit, I hope I would figure out what I did wrong. Would you be quick to reseat yourself again hard and kick again if I didn’t quickly?

Would you say anything to me about my erection? Or other females? Would you even notice if you were sitting on me?

I pictured a long day of use with you sitting on my back and you get up and walk out of a room we were in and me laying on my back to stretch it out like I sometimes do after a max day of squaring at the gym. Was curious if when you came back in the room and found me like that if you would leave me be or sit on me.

When you sat on his chest, did you make eye contact with him? Did you smile at him? How did you know he was looking up your skirt? When you slapped his face, were you pissed at him or was it because you could slap his face if you wanted?

What would you do if you were using me as your horse and you were stopped giving me a break, but you stayed mounted and I took my right hand and reached back to feel your soft, “fat ass” as it sat on me?! smile

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#174 2025-09-10 02:50:22

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JayRey8585

No, I wouldn't invite any of my employees to sit on you and the two I was referring to are heavier than  me. I would guess one  to be about 170  and the other maybe 190 or so.
They wouldn't have any reason to sit behind my desk on any  chair and that includes  you at  that point in time.

I don't know what you might do  to annoy me. Perhaps sagging or moving to much when I was getting comfortable.  Whatever it was you should remember  what you did just before I dropped  on you and kicked you.by the third kick you should  have figured it out.

I couldn't see your erection from where I would be sitting and I wouldn't care if I did.
I wouldn't care if any one else saw it either. Unless you're really big the ladies wont pay attention. Men tend to think  that "size matters" but it really doesn't, or I should say that "length" doesn't matter.

Since you would be there  to be sat on, I would  use you for that purpose whenever I felt like and I would probably sit on your chest in  some  position and get off of you when I felt like it. I often sat on my ex husbands chest when we were having a serious conversation and other times when I didn't want to talk to him at all. It was my favorite place to sit if I was talking on the phone, especially if I was talking to one of my boyfriends.

When I sat on handyman's chest that evening,  I was looking down at him and I think I was smiling. I could see where his eyes were looking toward my crotch and I didn't really mind, but it gave me an excuse to slap him. There is just something about sitting  astride a guy's chest that makes me want to slap his face. Wayne once told me he has the same feeling. Basically, I was slapping him because I could and I felt like it. I don't think he liked the slapping but he didn't try to stop me and I don't think he would have tried  even if I didn't have his arms pinned with my legs.

I think If you touched my ass with your hand I would give you a pass on that. A lot of guys want to give into that temptation, both submissive guys and my regular lovers. It's funny that one of my lovers can't seem to stop him self from touching my "fat ass" even though I've sat on his face  so many times.

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#175 2025-09-10 15:16:27

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MissBaron;

It seems to be the heavier ladies in your circle tend to hate men. Glad to hear they wouldn’t be able to sit on me as your chair. smile

What’s the longest you have sat on someone’s chest? I feel like after a while, that would become uncomfortable for the person you’re sitting on because of the pressure placed on their chest and lungs.

Not going to lie, if I was in handyman’s position and you were wearing the same thing or something similar, I too would probably be caught looking at your crotch. Oops. smile

I agree, that position of you sitting on my chest just begs for the human cushion to get slapped in the face. You could really get some leverage if you used your feet to pin down his arms (more weight with legs/feet and then slap. I have no doubt you didn’t mind him looking, but in return there was a consequence for his action.

Good to know I would get a pass if I touched it and felt your ass or as you call it, “fat ass” a bit! Ha. I would be so tempted.

I’m going to start this by saying, the rider you loaned him to, she isn’t spurring just to spur, in this case there may be a language barrier and he might not do what she says or wants so she spurs more frequently. Maybe she is pissed at him. Either way. Ok, so here is a real hypothetical and kinda far fetched question(s), BUT let’s play on what’s going on in our country right now. If an illegal was able to not get deported by ICE and in return be a human horse slave in your possession that you now could do whatever you wanted with. If you loaned this illegal human horse slave out to a friend of yours to ride at the arena let’s say one day and when she brought him back to you his thighs were all cut up and bleeding along with a few marks on his sides from her spurs during the ride, would you care? Would you feel bad for him? Would you ride him with spurs after that a day or so later? Break this down for me.

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#176 2025-09-10 17:01:42

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JayRey8585:

I'm going to start with the illegal alien. I love the idea of virtually owning him and loaning him to my friends , I would even loan him to Wayne assuming the illegal was straight.
But I would enjoy loaning  him to one of my heavier friends  who I know would ride him in the arena or anyplace else.

I don't think I would loan him to Julia because she would be more empathetic  than some of the others who really do hate men.
I would definitely like to watch when she sits on his back. she might even bounce on it  right from the start.  One lady I think I mention  a while back who did some porno films  for years and really  hates men wouldn't spare him any of her 200 + lbs. and wouldn't care if she crippled  or even killed him.  A few days with her sitting on his back and he would probably want to self-deport smile.

I don't like the invasion of these illegal creatures and it would be something of a problem for me to not  pounce on him myself and sit on his head   while it was face down in the arena in the sandy ground.

However that's not what you're asking. Would I object if the illegal was spurred hard and often and bleeding from the spurs?
Absolutely Not! I would  like to see him bleeding from his legs and  stomach as  well  if she could kick  him there  and sore places on his hands and knees where he tried and failed to keep up with her demands.  I have seen to many of these invaders  looking at  school age girls feel anything but contempt for  them. 

Of course it's going to be painful for a guy if I'm sitting on his chest "to long".  My ex said it hurt  even more when I got up off his chest than it did when I was sitting on it.
I made sure to sit on his chest  longer after he told me that  and only got off when I felt like it.
Sitting on his lungs?  Of course it's hard to breathe, That's also the idea.

In many ways, sitting on someone's chest is more dominant than even sitting on his face or head. He's vulnerable and helpless while  the person sitting on him is usually comfortable and can hurt him and taunt him to his/her hearts content.   As my seat, I wouldn't  care if you peeked up my little skirt at my lacy thong covered crotch. 
looking at what you can't have just makes it more fun for me.

Slapping your face? yes I don't think I could resist.

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#177 2025-09-10 18:51:08

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MissBaron;

This is fun to think about with using illegals as equipment or horses. The way I see it, you having a stable of illegals to loan out and use as equipment, furniture or horses might be better than them going to prison in El Salvador. smile

Now back to the question, if a lady had spurred a particular illegal a lot like I said and had cut up his thighs with her spurs, would that prevent you from taking him to the arena the next day and ridding him yourself with spurs? Would you use a bit on the illegals and be rough with the reins? If the collapse to the ground, kick or whip them until the get back up and bounce right back on their backs and spur or whip them until your hearts content.

Yes, you could tell the women who are heavier to really give these illegals back’s a hard time, but encouraging them to bounce hard, stay on for long periods of time, etc. If one died, the world will be a little safer. lol - make him want to self-deport! Love it! For those in the back, “GET THEM OUT OF HERE!!”

Owning a few of these illegals, other than being a riding horses, how else could you torture them and make them live a life as a beast of burden? Pulling wagons full of tomatoes or veggies with heavy female drivers yanking on the reins?? smile

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#178 2025-09-10 19:29:40

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JayRey8585:

I could make some of them wish they were in a prison in El Salvador. whether I used one to pull a wagon with a bit in his mouth, sat on him like he was a  chair or hung up like a hammock or rode him with spurs like a horse, he wouldn't get any mercy from me.

I've had to many boyfriends who begged me just to sit on them in some way (beside face sitting I mean) to see sitting on a guy for a reasonable period of time  to see it as a  good enough torture.

One of the ladies I know has a thing for stepping on guys including stepping on them while wearing heels. I could almost promise that if  the guy she was riding fell under her she would  kick him in his ribs until he got back up on all fours. I don't know if the guys immigration status would matter to her  though.  I used to chat on the phone with her while I was sitting on top of my ex and she enjoyed hearing about  his whining.

I wouldn't care in the least if the woman gave him to  actually  killed him.  It could happen  with the whipping and spurring . His back could literally break  or he could die of exhaustion.
But I wouldn't have to suggest  that she bounce on the guy.
Women think of that themselves naturally  even from a very young age.

As for keep a stable of illegals as beast of burden I guess a cattle prod would be useful and enjoyable. I have never used one but they look like fun.

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#179 2025-09-10 19:48:44

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MissBaron;

Rate these in the order as most fun to you to do to your illegals!!

A. Pulling a wagon loaded with bit/reins and whip

B. Using him as a chair

C. Riding him like a horse with bit/reins and spurs

D. Hung up like a hammock by his ankles and wrists. (OUCH!!)

Why for each?! smile Will love hearing this!

Cattle prod!! smile

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#180 2025-09-11 03:38:25

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JayRey8585:

OK and just for fun lets say the illegal has committed  violent crimes and sexual assault.

D. amuses me the most. Imagine him face down and suspended about 2 feet above the ground so that when you sit on his back, his wrists and ankles  are  taking your weight while his spine is bent backward. I think we would have to gag him , especially if a friend decided to sit beside you.

B. might be my second choice because it would be almost easy  for the first hour or so but the strain would grow and every time he tried to readjust  to reduce the pain it would only be  moments before  the pain would come back and when I reseated myself I would drop on him.

C. would be next simply because I like doing it and it leaves me with the most ways of hurting him. Using the spurs to kick him when he slowed down and jerking on the bit in his mouth wit real force  and not just tugging a little like when I'm sitting on a real horse.

A. pulling a wagon would only wear him down until he ran out of strength and  just whipping him until he died  doesn't really appeal to me.

I never used a cattle prod and while I assume it works  and  can be used to shock the guy or just as a threat as I once saw in a stock yard, I only mentioned it before to keep the stable of  illegal criminals in line.

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#181 2025-09-11 04:14:25

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MissBaron;

These answers were outstanding and you win the internet today!!

Imagine being able to manage your stand of violent, illegal criminals as you ride on one (with a harsh bit in his mouth, spurs on your boots and seated comfortably on his back. Oh and with about ten of your other female friends that hate men in general, let alone illegal criminals as they too sit on an illegal of their choice using the same ‘tools’ you are helping you keep these true beasts under control.

Idea. Would you mind if you knew in your stable of illegals that there were twin brothers and you picked one of them to be your horse and you used a harsh bit in his mouth, spurs on your boots and even a saddle (your “fat ass deserves to have a barrier between you and his nasty illegal back) as you ride him in the arena and work him in front of his brother. You spur. You are hard on the reins. Back sagging, etc as his brother watches on. Give me your thoughts. After, his other win gets Julia!! Hahahahaha smile

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#182 2025-09-11 17:30:22

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JayRey8585:

First I must clarify that I don't know even 10 women who hate men.
Many of them  resent men or things about men but still want men in their homes and in their bed.
However in my circles at least  I can certainly come up with 10  who  wouldn't have any problem sitting on a man's back , spurring him or using a crop on him whether the man liked it or not.

As  for  the twin "winning" Julia, I must say that Julia really is  attractive in her own way and has  quite a few male admirers  and more  at her feet. These guys love plus size women and Julia is exceptional popular  among them  in spite of or possibly because she is very demanding and even rough on them.

The illegal that find himself under  Julia's  plus size ass probably wouldn't last long.  Since she wouldn't have any restraint  regarding them, I can imagine Julia sitting and bouncing on the creep the moment he falls under her, then turning him over and sitting on his chest, laughing as he slowly suffocate.

I don't need a barrier between my human horse and my  ass.
I use a saddle on real horses for my safety but I prefer sitting directly on a man. Of course in this scenario I would have someone hose these  illegals down  until they were squeaky clean before allow any of the ladies to sit on them.

None of those illegal criminals deserves to touch  my "fat ass" in any way. I wouldn't  normally let one of them kiss it. But I would endure  my inhibitions to torture one while sitting on him and torturing him with sharp jabs from  my spurs, hard tugs on  the bit in his mouth and whipping him with the crop until he bleeds.

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#183 2025-09-11 17:37:39

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Rolantecamina:

I do remember you  and your post.
While I appreciate your interest,  I simply can't picture myself in the scenes you imagined.

I dominate men in many ways but normally in private settings  and  according to my own desires and whims of the moment  which may or may not  coincide with the man's fetishes or desires.
I would need more realism  in those scenarios of yours to properly reply to your request.

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#184 2025-09-12 18:05:20

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MissBaron;

If you were riding one of the twins in front of the other and Julia got on the other twin and your illegal mount saw Julia sitting on him, noticing his back sagging under her weight, seeing Julia spur him hard making him bleed some what and your horse started to act up or even cry smile, what would you do as you sit on him and watch her ride?

With the human hammock tied and suspended 2 feet above the ground, where would you sit on him if by yourself and where would you want to sit if a friend is going to sit on him with you?

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#185 2025-09-12 20:03:23

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JayRey8585:

How would I sit on the human hammock?
If I was alone  I would sit on the place his body was lowest to the ground. I suppose that would  be about the middle of his back.
Suspended as I expect and picture it, I would probably have to hop up  on him instead of just casually sitting down and I guess the pain  would be excessive. I suppose I should have him gagged to keep from disturbing the other ladies. Not that I would mind the noise myself, but I should consider the feelings of others smile

I can almost guarantee  the guy's back would sag the moment Julia sat on it. I don't think Julia would mind that very much. I think she would laugh at it.  But I am sure she would start kicking him with the spurs to make him arch his back up under her so she could spur  him  in the area of his stomach.

I wouldn't care in the least if the twin I was sitting on cried or begged Julia and me to have mercy on his brother.  I like it when I can help make a guy cry while I'm punishing him.
The twin's back would be the perfect place to sit on and watch Julia ride and spur her human-horse victim and of  course I would cheer her on. I can't tell you exactly  how far Julia would go if she didn't have any restraint. But I think what she did to her ex husband that day when she finally fought back  is a good  indicator:)

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#186 2025-09-13 01:10:40

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MissBaron;

If the twin you were sitting on as you watch Julia on his twin brother, was crying, whining and starting to move around due to the anxiety of watching his brother being ridden by Julia, how would you handle him and make him mind if his movements and noises were getting on your nerves?? What might you say to him also?

How would you handle the twin you were on as you sit on him and watch Julia ride the other twin and his back sagged a lot under you?!

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JayRey8585:

The first thing I would say to the twin of Julia's victim would be to ask him if he would like to take his brother's place?
If he had and hair I would grab it and make him look at his brother while Julia's ass  jiggled as she landed on him over and over until the guy was prone and she was pushing his bleeding face into the ground of the arena while sitting on his upper back.

I might encourage Julia to step on him and  grind her feet into his back  before sitting on his head to finish him off.

As much as I might like destroying my suffering seat myself, I think I would asked Julia if she would  like to do it or if she was tired from  working on the other twin..
Depending on her answer  I would suggest that  we get my twin on his back where she could sit on his stomach while I sit on his chest and try to break his fingers  one at a time.

Yes I'm feeling exceptionally mean today as I type this.

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Rolantecamina:

Regardless of your feelings about overweight people, Julia is first and foremost a woman and my feelings concerning feminine supremacy (the natural superiority of feminine  traits) means that men exist to serve women

Assuming in this fantasy world that as a visitor, you are required to obey me regardless of your feelings, I would of course demand that you allow Julia to sit on you any way she chooses assuming of course that she expressed a desire to do so. I happen to know that Julia weighs 260 lbs. But that has no bearing on your requirement to obey me or be arrested and deported for breaking the rules.

I allowed Julia to sit on my ex husband's back because she and I were amused by having him strain to support her. My husband and I were already divorced at the time this occurred and living in my basement temporarily to avoid being homeless. Humiliating him and abusing him was the only enjoyment I received from this arrangement.

If Julia  chose to sit down on your back hard and flatten you, I certainly wouldn't stop  her. Julia suffered abuse from her father and husband  for years  because of her weight and she has revenge coming to her . Yes! you could call it "Ass Justice" if you like.
Since I first took Julia under my wing I instilled  in her  "self worth" and she completely dominates   the  men she becomes involved with.

If you fell under her, she would probably bounce on you. However if you  complained in a disrespectful manner  she would  get you onto your back and sit on your chest right there on the floor.
At your weight  and the fact that you workout I imagine your chest is lean but muscular making it an appealing seat for Julia  to sit on. I would probably  want to sit on it myself when Julia was finished with you. At that point I think your problem would be breathing.

When I  decided to sit on your back for an extended period of time, I think I might enjoy having you begging for a break  which I probably would  deny you. I'm not very heavy but it's  enjoyable to have a man begging for mercy while I'm just sitting on him.

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#189 2025-09-13 22:19:13

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Rolantecamina:

In reality as opposed t our fantasy scenario, the real handyman  loves having me ride him and just sit on his back .His fetish and probably his only pseudo sexual outlet is to be used by women as a beast of burden  or a piece of furniture. 
What handyman doesn't know is that his sexual agenda isn't really aligned with mine.

It's true that I sometimes sat on his back while chatting on the phone and sometimes I forgot that I was sitting on him, and while I find him quite comfortable, I also  secretly use sitting on his back  as a punishment for his desires to use me as his instrument of masochistic satisfaction  and because he is available to me because  his wife is involved in an affair  and isn't concerned about him being away from her and his house.

Don't misunderstand, Even though  my riding his back started as a  bit of a joke,  I do enjoy it most of the time.
But sitting on him casually as a  convenient seat is a small act of punishment for him and an act of dismissiveness toward him as a man.

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#190 2025-09-14 04:14:29

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Rolantecamina:

You have a lot of involved questions but I'll try to answer at least some of the.
As for my attire at home, I wear skirts or dresses  almost all the time  with just panties underneath. My skirts are short and my panties are  thongs and I enjoy  wearing lingerie .I must wear shorts on occasion of course but I rarely wear slacks or jeans.

I doubt that your youthful appearance would deter Julia and I would probably keep you shirtless most of the time anyway.
Julia doesn't hate men but  she does carry a lot of resentment toward men and acts it out on some of her male admirers. It's obvious that she likes using her weight as a  weapon and you would be more fortunate if she just sat on you rather than added  beating on you while she had you pinned on the floor.

The lady I mention that weighs about 200 lbs. would almost certainly take out her anger on you as a proxy for her ex husband. I would have to watch her when she was on top of you  to keep her from going to far and she wouldn't care how old you looked. 

I would not signal to the police if I could avoid it because I wouldn't want you deported until I had my fun with you and worked you passed exhaustion.  When I had a clean and spotless house, I would ask my man hating friend to  sit on your shoulders  while you  put your head between her thighs and you tried to lift her. If you failed she would probably beat on your trapped head until you lifter her all the way up or became unconscious from exhaustion from trying.

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#191 2025-09-15 04:27:36

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Rolantecamina:

For any fantasy  involving real people that I know, I have to use what I know about those people. The 200 lb. lady  I mentioned is Amanda and she is  somewhat attractive for her age (I think she is 40) . She had a very nice figure  about 10 years ago but gained  a lot of weight since her divorce.   One thing that should be  made clear is that Amanda  wouldn't have any  kind of sex with you or probably any  man.

If Amanda sat on your shoulders at my suggestion, she would probably make it harder for you to lift her even if you can manage her weight.  I can imagine her  straddling your neck and sitting down on you as soon as she got your head between her legs and slapping your face as you strained to lift her.  She hits much harder than I do BTW.
If you got an erection I don't know if she would be angry or happy that she can deny you satisfaction while you struggle . Perhaps she would feel both ways about  it.

If you did manage to lift her, she would likely hold on to your hair or your ears while shifting her weight on your shoulders to make you more uncomfortable.

As for dressing sexy, I have only seen her wear skirts and pantyhose. I tried to get her to try wearing  vintage lingerie which is my personal favorite , but she wasn't interested, preferring sheer to the waist nylon pantyhose or nothing .

Wearing you down would be easy  enough for the two of us. I would insist on have you carry Amanda for several laps of my living room, then have you get on the floor on your knees while she sat on your hunched over back and neck as we chatted about anything and everything.

Begging me to ask her to change positions wouldn't  help because I would see you in what I consider the proper place for a man and she in hers! If you  became  annoying with the  begging, I would remind you that  Julia lives just across the street and wouldn't have any problem in taking  Amanda's place.

I would of course allow  Amanda to sit on you as long as she desired. She would  be  my guest in my home and  you  would nothing more than furniture.
If she  invited me to join her on you, I can't see how there would be room in the position you would be in. I suppose we could just put you supine on your back on the floor and  sit on your chest and stomach .

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#192 2025-09-15 14:53:30

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MissBaron;

If you had a stable of illegals (4 or 5) including the one above in this chat with you, how would YOU use me during the week?! Here you are with illegals and an American stallion!! lol smile

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#193 2025-09-15 15:30:58

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Rolantecamina:

In this hypothetical situation, I could work from home the week  you were with me  but my employees are almost all women and would find  my using your back as my office chair  amusing at worse .The only men in my little company are my bookkeeper/accountant, the janitor and the useless cretin I threatened to become my office chair after he destroyed  my normal chair..
The Janitor wouldn't care, my accountant is an overweight gay man who would be jealous that he couldn't sit on you  and the  cretins opinion doesn't matter.

In the time I had control of you I would feel like I own you and use you for anything I happen to think of.

If I felt like slapping you, it wouldn't matter if I was slapping you hard enough to really hurt you. It would be the act of slapping your face while you couldn't fight back and just had to take it that I would enjoy.

So let's assume  for a moment that I use your back as my office chair. If I'm busy that day I would probably be to busy working to notice or care about  your fatigue. I don't know if I might just drop my butt on your back when I first  sat on you, but if i had to get up for some reason for a few minutes,  I would simply  return and  plop down  just as I would if you were my real chair.
If I wasn't very busy,  I would take time to enjoy  sitting on your aching back and having a man's back under me   at work where I normally sit on  nothing  more than a calf skin chair.
As for your attire in that position, I suppose a  T shirt would be adequate. I could still feel your  muscles quivering  as you strain to hold your back in position while I shift my ass around making it more difficult for you to hold my weight (135 lbs this morning smile.

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#194 2025-09-15 17:23:01

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JayRey8585:

I'm sorry but I simply can't incorporate your fantasy into someone else's .
I find it too tedious to keep my thoughts together .

If you would like to continue discussing on your own fantasy, I would be happy to  do so with you but combining two guys fantasies is just too much.

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#195 2025-09-15 21:48:03

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MissBaron;

Sorry. Going back to what we talked about with illegals aliens only option to remain in the country was if women took them in as beasts of burden. With that said, you said you would use them as a hammock, chair etc. if you had a few illegals at the time of me visiting for a week, how would you use me vs them?

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#196 2025-09-16 02:31:33

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JayRey8585:

Following this line of thinking and  considering my normal laziness, having what amounts to both willing and unwilling temporary slaves at my disposal, I would probably invite a couple of friends  to join  in on the fun.  Of course  Julia would be my first choice  and  Amanda, the lady I previously referred to by  her weight(200 lbs) would be the other lady. this choice would be simple because I know that Julia and  Amanda  could  keep  almost any man in line and the illegal aliens could possibly rebel and some of them could be from counties  where they resent  female authority.

My natural laziness obviously includes  using as little effort  to use and torment  the ones who  might get out of line and just sitting on  the one suspended  like a hammock appeals to me. I just hope  Julia  wouldn't want to  test that guys back LOL.

Your place in all of this would be to set an example of obedience.
You would follow me around like loyal dog and make yourself into a  chair for me when I signaled for you to get down on all fours.
I think Amanda might enjoy watching that  since her  divorce  was the result of her husband deserting her when he refused to be  trained anymore. You would have to obey  Julia and Amanda including  being a  pony slave  or a chair etc. unless of course I was already sitting on you at the time. You would also be required to protect me because during this time I want to feel like a real goddess  with a man willing to die for me.

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#197 2025-09-16 02:38:20

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MissBaron;

This is interesting!

I feel like I’m getting the preferred treatment and I’m not (in this situation) as low as an illegal in this case! I feel like  I’m your preferred chair, horse and someone you would want to protect you if an illegal got out of hand.

It would be interesting if you couldn’t rent these illegals to take people on trail rides either by folks riding on their shoulders or folks choosing to sit and ride on their backs. Could you imagine renting an illegal out for a few days repeatedly each day?

You could use me as your horse and trail guide!

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#198 2025-09-16 14:37:02

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JayRey8585:

Of course I would give you preferential treatment.
You are in my country legally and choosing to serve  me.
These aliens  are obeying under duress and must  deal with how I choose to treat them and use them.

I have always liked the idea of having  the option of paying someone  to carry me  , like  a human porter serving those who want to  tour or something but don't want to bother  walking any distance or simply enjoy sitting on someone's shoulders like  a  king or queen on his/her  peasant servant.
This is completely impractical  of course and certainly would never become a  business, but having coerced men into  carrying me in various ways ,I can at least imagine having such an option always available.  rather like one might call an uber smile.

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#199 2025-09-16 19:38:57

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Rolantecamina:

No, I didn't see it but I'm busy now and I'll try to reply later.
For now, I'll just tell you that my statistics are 34C-26-42  .
the 42 is because I have a high fat ass and I'm proud of it.
Long ago I was a little embarrassed  about it but not anymore.

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#200 2025-09-17 02:30:52

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Rolantecamina:

I think I can answer most of your questions without scrolling up to many times.

Actually, in the way the court system is now, I could  take a man who is an American citizen to court and all but kill him, claim I was defending myself and have him put in jail. Even if Julia, Amanda and I jumped on you while you were sleeping  and I got a bruise  from pounding on you, I would normally be believed    and with the other two ladies being my witnesses, you would be in big trouble.
As an illegal alien  the odds against you would be staggering since  I would have  women's groups  backing me without  my asking.

As for my  derriere, I'm quite aware of men  looking at  it and being attracted to it. Honestly,  women  often admire  the female  ass  including  me. I'm very  particular about it but  I check out  men's butts too and butts and forearms  are #1 and #2 points of interest on a man's body. However, I don't feel like talk about that right now.

There is no secret that I like sitting on a man and I'm far from unique in this . I like feeling  of control and  that I have reduced a much stronger person to being nothing more than a living chair or beast of burden while he strains to serve me and I ignore   his efforts.
I can be cruel or dismissive of him or both in combination.

If  I was sitting on your muscular back for an hour or so and you collapsed under me, I may not be hurt since I landed on you,  but the sudden shock  might very well make me angry.
being  in this position on your back  might make it hard for me to get up from behind my desk.
I could imagine taking off my shoe and  tapping your head with the spike heel  hard enough to hurt while ordering you to rise up to your former position and lift me up again. No! I wouldn't take my weight off you at all. That would be  your punishment for disturbing me by falling. 

I don't think I would ride your back at the office or if I was working at home.  I wouldn't  bother changing my position to get comfortable  and maintaining my balance on you. If I felt your efforts were not satisfactory , I would probably threaten to have Amanda or Julia  sit on your head while I watched.  I like watching other women having fun at a man's expense and it would be interesting to see if you would pass out.  But perhaps it would be just a threat to frighten you ? I guess I would let you wonder:)

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