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#1 2008-08-27 21:59:55

vageli
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for the administrators..

Hey guys,

As you know,I like giving my oppinions from time to time..

I think though,we have to try and see how we can improve,or change some things on here...

Some days I think,why we have bonus members..I mean,what benefit is there really...The new pics we put up,will get moved later to the regular albums...I think of this many times while putting up pics for the bonus members..

The other times,I think,we should be more strict the way we just let in members to become bonus members..I feel it is way toooooo easy...In my oppinion,I feel a lot of members seem to only post something or reply to other posts,but really do not concentrate on finding or putting up pics...I have noticed over the last few months,some members seem new,and only post about something here or there,then they dissappear..Yet,other new members post,then they leave with out notice...I think though I am talking about two different things here..I should get back to what I was saying about bonus members...You may critisize me for saying this,but the bottom line is,this group has no success if people post,and never put up any pics...Plain and simple...You seem to make the effort and post something you want to say or talk about,but never put up any photos..I would not allow anyone to become bonus member,unless he does post some photos per month on regular basis...I am not also talking about photos which we have see over and over..Easy photos,just to become bonus member...I think it is time to change things...
Louie,I am not sure what you are talking about at times,saying it has been a good week or so seeing so many new photos and lot's of involvment with members,since you were gone from your computer for a few days.....This summer has been the slowest of any su
mer as having  members posting photos..If not for me,and a few others,we would have nothing on here...You could believe what ever you want,but this is very fact...

I am not going to wait very long,for the administrators to decide what they would do about changing some things on here..I mean about bonus members...I feel it may motivate members to post some photos to become bonus members,since they would not be able to become bonus members with just posting some things here and there..

If you will not do anything about this,then I will be posting photos,as I always do...However,I will not be posting them in the bonus albums..I will be posting them in the regular albums..The reason is,I would feel the bonus member rules is a joke...I take this group very serious..I am here to stay..I'm not here one day,and gone tomorow like most members have done over the last 10 years or so,since I have been a member in these type of groups...I always say this..When someone really likes the shoulder ride business,they will like it I feel for ever..I can't see how these so called members were members one day,and gone for ever the next..These members are not true shoulder ride fans...the way I am...

Now,if we will not change the policy to make it so easy for anyone to become a bonus member,then I will just be putting my photos as I said in the regular albums..Yes,Christmas may have come early for the regular members who would get to see my new photos on a regular basis..

Vaggelli

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#2 2008-08-27 23:17:34

hemibo
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Re: for the administrators..

Vaggeli,

you just seem to concentrate on Photos. What`s about a good and not so easy to find youtube link?

I like videos more than photos.

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#3 2008-08-27 23:21:49

ponyxwoman
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Re: for the administrators..

Ciao Vagelli

Excuse, but I not full agree with you. I like much stories and real experiences. From Yahoo's groups time I have collect hundreds of stories. I think is important if a member decide to share his/her shoulderriding experiences.

The membership acceptance politic is very hard to decide. Myself cannot partecipate every time to this group. I'm very honorated to have friends of this groups for debate of shoulderrides and for opinion exchanges.  I have as many photos and clips that I can also not be a bonus member. Simply I love shoulderriding (wom). And when I have a shoulderriding experience I'm glad to tell you. And when I have a photo or clip to share I do (unfortunately there is a waste of time or copyright problems for upload clips!)
But I respect and I will respect administrators's rules for bonus membership.


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#4 2008-08-28 02:47:06

vageli
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Re: for the administrators..

Hemibo,

I feel I should only concentrate on photos,as most people do not search for photos ,and will only look and search for a video link..The reason is,it is much easier..

Ponyxwoman,you are a fan of only (wom)and this should qualify you by just that comment to be a bonus member:)..

Also,I feel Liz should be a bonus member always..The reason is,she is the only female member,that we know of who participates..I feel any woman who posts on here,should be a bonus member,even though she may not post any photos...I know this rule should apply to women members,as I had said,anyone who does not post photos,should not be a bonus member..I guess I like to bend the rules somwhat when it comes to the female gender..I found some nice older girls on younger boys photos..It would not let me put them up..I guess they were too big or something...Do not worry,I will somehow put them up..I know we have very few members though who does like this..I thought there would be more interest..Oh well..We can't all like the same thing..

Vaggelli

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#5 2008-08-28 07:45:56

boba21th
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Re: for the administrators..

Hello Everyone!

I don't understand what is this dramatizating about bonusmember-member status? Ok! Bonus membership could be incentive for work but I hink so it is totally unnecessary. My point to put up my every photos/links to share with the others. I never will hide them and I am sure everybody think same about it!  Does anybody wonder because of  plenty repeated files? These are coming by necessity of the bonusmembership-keeping! That is that!
Vag! Be gentleman! There are one female or two among us let be their privilege the bonusmembership by the rare activity! It doesn't disturb me!

Best regards!

Boba

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#6 2008-08-29 00:31:55

vageli
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Re: for the administrators..

Boba,

You bring up good points..Yes you are right,if the photos we have are open for every member to see,maybe there may be less repeated photos..Then again,we have seen the same photo on here many times..So,I don't know if this is possible..I think we should really consider not having any more bonus album..We should have every photo to be seen by every member...I am also thinking,if a person will post,he will..It won't motivate him to post I feel to make him a bonus member,,Only very few may want to post,just to become bonus members..I still think we should have Liz,or any other female,always being a bonus member..We should be thankfull we have females period...I hope soon we will here from the administrators to see if we should not have bonus members anymore..

I received an e-mail about two hours ago,from one of our members..Anyways,he was saying he does not have much time searching for things,but he would love to see the new photos,which he claims he has to wait for months to view...After we move them down from the bonus albums I mean..

I think it does not harm..As boba sais,why should we have to hide the new photos from non bonus members..Don't forget,the majority are not bonus members,so this would make them happy..Anyways,just wondering if the administraors will really give this a good thought..It would not bother anyone I feel for people to see every photo..

Vaggelli

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#7 2008-08-29 04:21:39

louie_sr
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Re: for the administrators..

I am open for this discussion but I am not the only one to decide.
Moving pictures from the bonus albums to the regular folders takes a very long time (that was a lot easier at smartgroups). I did that a couple of times and it always took me hours. Moving all current 6000+ images would probably take a whole day. I can't think of anyone who would have that much time only for this action alone.

Louie

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#8 2008-08-29 05:45:32

namaegaaru
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Last visit: 2016-09-22
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Re: for the administrators..

vageli wrote:

Hey guys,

As you know,I like giving my oppinions from time to time..

I think though,we have to try and see how we can improve,or change some things on here...

Some days I think,why we have bonus members..I mean,what benefit is there really...The new pics we put up,will get moved later to the regular albums...I think of this many times while putting up pics for the bonus members..

The other times,I think,we should be more strict the way we just let in members to become bonus members..I feel it is way toooooo easy...In my oppinion,I feel a lot of members seem to only post something or reply to other posts,but really do not concentrate on finding or putting up pics...I have noticed over the last few months,some members seem new,and only post about something here or there,then they dissappear..Yet,other new members post,then they leave with out notice...I think though I am talking about two different things here..I should get back to what I was saying about bonus members...You may critisize me for saying this,but the bottom line is,this group has no success if people post,and never put up any pics...Plain and simple...You seem to make the effort and post something you want to say or talk about,but never put up any photos..I would not allow anyone to become bonus member,unless he does post some photos per month on regular basis...I am not also talking about photos which we have see over and over..Easy photos,just to become bonus member...I think it is time to change things...
Louie,I am not sure what you are talking about at times,saying it has been a good week or so seeing so many new photos and lot's of involvment with members,since you were gone from your computer for a few days.....This summer has been the slowest of any su
mer as having  members posting photos..If not for me,and a few others,we would have nothing on here...You could believe what ever you want,but this is very fact...

I am not going to wait very long,for the administrators to decide what they would do about changing some things on here..I mean about bonus members...I feel it may motivate members to post some photos to become bonus members,since they would not be able to become bonus members with just posting some things here and there..

If you will not do anything about this,then I will be posting photos,as I always do...However,I will not be posting them in the bonus albums..I will be posting them in the regular albums..The reason is,I would feel the bonus member rules is a joke...I take this group very serious..I am here to stay..I'm not here one day,and gone tomorow like most members have done over the last 10 years or so,since I have been a member in these type of groups...I always say this..When someone really likes the shoulder ride business,they will like it I feel for ever..I can't see how these so called members were members one day,and gone for ever the next..These members are not true shoulder ride fans...the way I am...

Now,if we will not change the policy to make it so easy for anyone to become a bonus member,then I will just be putting my photos as I said in the regular albums..Yes,Christmas may have come early for the regular members who would get to see my new photos on a regular basis..

Vaggelli

I think I know of somebody you are talking about. He replies to lots of discussions and uploads little. He did give money once. He worries about copyright infringement which may get this website shut down which would sadden him when he enjoys pictures and videos of beautiful ladies being shoulder-carried like princesses. He recently uploaded some more Malibu Beach shoulder riding videos of a pretty gal who caresses the hair of her love slave that shoulder carries her. But, naturally the rest of us guys would never submit to the whims of a sweet gal to this degree. We are far too tough as every gal who has wrapped most others around her little finger already knows.

Why would he upload something copyrighted. They are samples made easy to take by the public, possibly to facilitate advertising or publicity of Getty Images such that it appears that those of Getty Images would not mind. But this uploader could be crazy. He has heard that "people are crazier than anybody."

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#9 2008-08-29 19:05:18

namaegaaru
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Re: for the administrators..

More from Getty Images. Chicken fights. They all look models.  Hong and Liz, what would you call the guys in those videos from Getty Images? Hunks? Or do would they need to show you their true characters and personalities over time?


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#10 2008-08-29 22:48:49

Nick
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Re: for the administrators..

vageli wrote:

Also,I feel Liz should be a bonus member always..The reason is,she is the only female member,that we know of who participates..I feel any woman who posts on here,should be a bonus member,even though she may not post any photos...I know this rule should apply to women members,as I had said,anyone who does not post photos,should not be a bonus member.. [...]Vaggelli

The rule is, and has always been (since we introduced bonus membership at Smartgroups): regularly upload photos OR videos OR participate in the discussions (of course with interesting information). As we all know, Liz participates regularly in the discussions and sometimes she also uploads some photos (although this is not necessary).

The rules are the same for all - why having female bonus members who are passive? There is no point. I'm sure Liz agrees with me here too.

Nick

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#11 2008-08-29 23:50:15

namaegaaru
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Re: for the administrators..

Yes, I do like to read what the ladies write.


Sam

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#12 2008-09-01 18:50:54

gunde
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Re: for the administrators..

Hi Vageli,
The difference between regular and bonus membership is not that big. You are right about this.

One way of activating members might be, that we would no longer move pics from bonus albums to the general section. We could move bonus pics straight to the archives instead.

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#13 2008-09-02 01:39:49

louie_sr
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Re: for the administrators..

Frankly, I don't think that makes a huge difference.
The last time I moved pics from the bonus albums down to the regular folders was several month ago. No one really cares about that. There are over 10.000 pictures in the free albums and there are being added new ones regularly as well there. I think that's enough for many members so the reason to get even more pics alone wouldn't make them mind to try to get an ugrade. Every member in this community has access already to so much content also with the free access of the forum and so they get many hundrets of video links as well. I believe many people are satisfied with that. The difference is like as a normal member can eat ten cakes and a bonus member is allowed to eat a dozen.
I think in terms of motivation we should think about a better way about bonus memberships. Something that would be more effective. But I understand that's not easy in a free of charge group.

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