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#1 2019-08-26 17:11:53

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Human rentals.

I was wondering if  anyone  would  take advantage of  a  rider/carrier rental type of  business?

A place where riders  could simply rent a  carrier  by the hour   and perhaps a carrier could rent  a  rider.

A simple business transaction without  complications. You don't care  about the person  you're  sitting on  and  they don't care  about  you. You  would perhaps have a  choice of  male or  female carriers or riders but have no  more personal regard than you would  for a  horse  or any  beast of burden.
It  might be possible in  such a  scenario  to arrange  for specific  clothing, positioning and other  conditions  for those with  special  tastes.

I think that such an arrangement  would be much  easier than the  complication of a  relationship where  you care about the  person  under or on top of you. It's just his or her  job and  you  don't have to  bother yourself about them  at all.

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#2 2019-08-26 18:24:19

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Re: Human rentals.

It is good idea! I would compleate list about my ability and about my past riders comments,  so  it can be in form of catalogue!


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#3 2019-08-27 00:11:17

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Re: Human rentals.

I would totally be on board with that. You hear people joke or talk about it all the time at concerts and other events. It's just a simple understanding from both parties.

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#4 2019-08-27 02:10:16

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Re: Human rentals.

Thank You forbereit and ulhawkks:

As I see it,  the  people working a  rentals wouldn't be really different than handymen or  furniture movers  for the riders,  or  trainers  in  a  gym  for those who prefer to carry others.
Simply a  job that required  a certain physicality  and  beneficial to those who take advantage of the services.

In the past I have been  carried by  enthusiastic carriers , those who  simply  submitted to carry  me and  a few  who resented doing  so  and complied out of other  motivations.
I think it would be  rather  pleasant to just  sit up  there in  a comfortable  position and be  carried though parks or woodlands etc. without  the slightest concern. Carriers could enjoy whatever aspect of  their experience might  be without any complications or the  bother of developing any  sort of relationship.

It  could be a delightful experience for  those  who  are normally  too  heavy ,unattractive  or just too  shy  to enjoy this activity otherwise.  Obviously there would be some  limitations just as there are in any activity, but that can be established within  the  stable.

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#5 2019-08-27 06:01:38

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Re: Human rentals.

Hey Audrey...

Excellent idea..

Pls go ahead with this and make it a reality.

If we can have an Online Directory of the Riders and Carries with specific areas...will be excellent.

I will be Full Time Horse then.

Thanks


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#6 2019-08-28 01:45:35

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Re: Human rentals.

trigger:

I would  honestly consider starting such a service  if  not for the  complications of doing business in the  U.S  these  day.

Licensing to  operate  such a service could be  complicated in it self.

Then  there  is the problem of  health  insurance since  strains and accidents are  an issue.

Choosing a  location  where  such a  business would be  near enough to  the  cliental .

And there is  likely to be  a certain element that would  object  to the operation  on moral  grounds,  alleging  an  aspect of  prostitution  etc.

Then  there is the  problem of  hiring people strong and fit enough to qualify  for such  a  position.
Riders who are light enough to be  carried  would be less of a  problem  than  finding  carriers  strong enough  since if I put a  weight limit in place, someone  who  exceeds  that limit could  charge  me with  discrimination.  Just imagine some 300 lb. man  who wants to  sit on a woman's shoulders.
It would be nearly impossible to  find  a woman who  could  manage such a burden  without  injury  and  very  few men  as well.

I would need a very large amount of  capitol and a team of lawyers just  to  get  it started.
My question  was  basically  hypothetical. I was  just  curious  if  the  people here  would take advantage of such  a  service  and also if their reasons for  doing so  are similar to  the  reasons that  I would use  such a service  if it  existed.

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#7 2019-08-28 06:07:01

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Re: Human rentals.

Yes Ma'am. Practically there will be lots of issues.

I thought its tough to do business in India only....was not knowing that US is also the same...I always thought of US as very Liberal in every way.

But Can we Make some Online Directory...of Pony and Riders...which we can also update and segregate on the basis of Area / City and Availability.

In this way, we can get some Reliable Database.
Though we have some kind of this thing here..but not a totally seperate section for that.

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#8 2019-08-29 11:00:19

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Re: Human rentals.

This idea is so great, I'd seriously pay a strong male carrier to carry me! I guess he can charge according to the rider's weight and the lenght of the ride! Any carriers shoulders here is for rent?

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#9 2019-08-30 15:39:30

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Re: Human rentals.

I've got an idea. Let's face it. Everyone is looking for a specific type of person to be carried or to ride on. Getting together is the difficult part. Perhaps we could launch ridesurfing, like a Fusion of couchsurfing, and shoulder rides. We could even use sth that is already working, perhaps we'd take advantage of some of the already existing websites offering such service. A lot of extracurricular activities is taking place there. And everybody knows it. So why don't we just put up some couchsurfing offers with dog wistles. I like to ride on male shoulders. I am a carrier. And we shouldn't need to concern ourselves with lawyers too much. We're just helping adult people get together. And if they use our network to fulfill their desire to ride on each other's shoulder's, well, we're happy if they are!

Because, in Europe at least there will be a substantial competition from escorts. They will dress however you like and the'll ride on your shoulders if you want them to. Some would even carry you. Mostly women. But there are men too. They're offering a wide range of sevices. Some are real experts in fulfilling fantasies… . I believe SR would fall under the girlfriend/boyfriend experience label.

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#10 2019-08-31 20:14:34

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Re: Human rentals.

That is very good idea, now many of us could make dream come true if that could be real some day. I should LOVE to carry women and I don't care how woman looks out. I can carry also heavier women, it's like challange but I never drop woman down that she hurt herself, NEVER. Maybe I have dreamt about that kind of idea inside my head for years. When I saw pictures carriers carried women to boat and from boat, I was happy and partly that was sort of my dream.

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#11 2019-09-01 16:40:30

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Re: Human rentals.

We must be careful.
Doctors should take care of riddens' health, especially cardiologists.
People with heart problems should not be riddens.

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#12 2019-09-01 16:58:59

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Re: Human rentals.

Offer and demand:

Male Riddens could earn money being ridden by male riders; but, anxious to be ridden, they would pay to be meek and docile horses being ridden by female riders.

Female riders could earn money riding on meek and docile male riddens, their horses; They could also ride free on female ridden, even mares can pay to be ridden by female riders.

Male riders would pay to ride riddens (male and female).

Female Riddens would earn money being ridden by male riders; but they could pay to be ridden as mares for female riders.

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#13 2019-09-01 17:27:52

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Re: Human rentals.

And what about an app like Tinder meetic or this kind of apps? With the obly objetive to put together riders and carriers. To be ok the app you have to pay a suscription, and that is the way you get money

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#14 2019-09-15 06:09:36

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Re: Human rentals.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

As I see it,  Apps, registries and clubs etc. still  have the complications of  social interaction.
In the simplest terms, I would prefer a business type transaction as straight foreword as renting a  horse from  a stable.  The carriers are hired  as  opposed to  owned of course and the  stable owner has the responsibility of the care and fitness of the carrier's he/she  hires .The same would apply to the rented riders for those who prefer to carry others.

Rules, details and special services could be  completely contractual. Rules would exist  and those employed as carriers or riders would have the option of complying or leaving that line  of  employment.

The riders and carriers taking advantage of the service may choose the gender of the carrier/rider  but  would  have no  responsibility for the  hirelings  maintenance . In short,  a carriers fitness to the task is determined by the stable operator  or the  carrier  him/herself.

You simply pay for the services of the  carrier you are going to  sit on and comply to whatever rules the stable requires such as  duration  and rest periods etc.  The fitness of the carrier would not be the rider's concern  and (without being  too cold about it) if  the  hireling was injured  or  even  died as a result of the  burden,  it  wouldn't be the responsibility of the  rider anymore  than if a furniture mover  was injured or died performing that  job.

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#15 2019-09-16 06:16:20

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Re: Human rentals.

Best Scenario...


Audreyb wrote:

Thanks for all the suggestions.

As I see it,  Apps, registries and clubs etc. still  have the complications of  social interaction.
In the simplest terms, I would prefer a business type transaction as straight foreword as renting a  horse from  a stable.  The carriers are hired  as  opposed to  owned of course and the  stable owner has the responsibility of the care and fitness of the carrier's he/she  hires .The same would apply to the rented riders for those who prefer to carry others.

Rules, details and special services could be  completely contractual. Rules would exist  and those employed as carriers or riders would have the option of complying or leaving that line  of  employment.

The riders and carriers taking advantage of the service may choose the gender of the carrier/rider  but  would  have no  responsibility for the  hirelings  maintenance . In short,  a carriers fitness to the task is determined by the stable operator  or the  carrier  him/herself.

You simply pay for the services of the  carrier you are going to  sit on and comply to whatever rules the stable requires such as  duration  and rest periods etc.  The fitness of the carrier would not be the rider's concern  and (without being  too cold about it) if  the  hireling was injured  or  even  died as a result of the  burden,  it  wouldn't be the responsibility of the  rider anymore  than if a furniture mover  was injured or died performing that  job.


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#16 2019-09-16 16:15:35

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Re: Human rentals.

It's an interesting idea.
Though when I'm being ridden my ideal is that my rider does use me entirely for their own purpose and pleasure. Casually, naturally, as they have every right to do. To take money for this would be to ask the rider to contribute something and that isn't the role of a rider.

Where I can see it getting interesting is if one rider rented out their human pony to another for a period. This way the pony is being used for its natural purpose, and the rider is being compensated for the inconvenience of being without a pony.


Love giving shoulder rides, piggyback, all 4s

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#17 2019-09-17 02:13:21

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Re: Human rentals.

Manchair:

Unfortunately what you suggest couldn't  work  as  a business transaction.
Age, weight, gender and even the attractiveness of the  people involved would complicate any such arrangement.

For example, if a man chose to  ride on the shoulders of another man, the carrier may  choose not to  carry another man in  your scenario.
In  a business  arrangement, the carrier's employment  would depend on carrying anyone regardless of the carrier's preferences.  Obviously the limitations  regarding the physicality  of the carrier would  have to be considered,  but  not his  choices or prejudices. 

If,  for example, I operated a horse riding stable, I would match  the clients to  the  horses  based on the ability of the  horse  to carry  the person renting the horse.
If a  500  lb person were  the  customer, I may have a horse that could carry him or I may not.
I wouldn't assign such a person  to  a  Shetland pony.

I imagine there could be customers with special preferences  that  I  may be able to  comply with, but it would be a  business transaction  and I  wouldn't be in  business very long if the majority of my carriers  were injured.  The same  would apply to rented riders. For example, if you preferred  to carry  a plus sized  woman on your shoulders, I would have to access  your ability to carry her  safely.
There  would likely be  waivers  you would have to  sign to protect myself from injury  law suits  in  the event that you  were  hurt or  died  while  she was sitting on  you.

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#18 2019-09-18 20:37:05

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Re: Human rentals.

The difficulty i think would lie in finding professional carriers in sufficient numbers and variety to make this whole thing work in such an extremely niche field of interests.

And I Wonder just how overtly sexual do you want to make it. Many dominant riders claim they do not treat this as a fetish. Submissive carriers in my experience, tend to be more willing to admit they're getting an erotic kick out of being ridden. Sex sells, but it must struggle against a dubious reputation within society whenever it is being treated as a profession. And there is a huge competion on top of that. Pun not intended.

So again, would it be possible to find enough strong men who would readily, safely and tirelessly carry other men or the plus size women on demand for a competitive price? And, if the answer to that first questions is yes, would such business find enough costomers to make it profitable?

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#19 2019-09-19 06:53:45

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Re: Human rentals.

I would like to Add something, which I have observed in India in Pilgrimage tours.

There are many Pilgrimage tours in India which are on Rough Hills where to walk is extremely difficult for women and kids.
They can either hire - Donkeys, Horses or Porters. for travelling up hills.

Now - Porters carry Humans also, mostly old aged people choose them for their movement.

But I have seen many young or mid age people carried by porters, both male and female riders.

Porter carries them on back in a specially designed basket, where the person will sit, and porter will carry them on their back to the hill.

And this is quite a long distance, ranging from 5-10 kms.

Now here people are hiring porters for there rides, which in a case similar to Rental business.
Porter is doing it for money.
Only difference is that , the rides are different in nature.

Also...we have seen so many videos of people riding on shoulders in African countries from boats till the land..for money..
Heavy men / women ride them from boat On and Off.

So these practises are already there..and accepted.


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#20 2019-09-19 21:57:06

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Re: Human rentals.

#GERMANYTOO wink

In germany they've got the riding-cult.cc

This is a small company run by attractive dominant young Woman going by the psudonym Diana, who actually used to ride men for money. Now She is the showrunner. And in exchange for shooting a video she will arrange a meeting with you and a young sadistic girl to be your Riding Mmistress.

PROS:

It's free.
you are allowed to wear a mask.
You might get to choose your riding mistress.
Sometimes you may get a bonus. Like your Mistress taking a sit on your face after the ride.

CONS:

You are being filmed.
Prepare for permanent marks.  Those girls are brutal. They will wound you with their spurs. They're going to kick you when you're down.
They will force you to lick mud off their boots.
It is difficult to arrange a meeting. You'll need to agree to do something no man has done before. Like running almost naked for half an hour in the snow while carrying your Mistress. Diana is an artist, a perfectioninst. And She is demanding. Few men are ready to bear real suffering for their Mistress… .

Ahnother company is sadistic-girls.com

PROS:

It can be free.
You can write your own scenario.
You can choose whether or not you want to wear a mask.
You can choose between hard and soft session.
They travel around the World. YES, you've red that right. They might even come to your country.

CONS:

You are being filmed.
If you choose to wear a mask it costs 180$
The further from Germany you live, the more difficult it is to arrange a visit.

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#21 2019-09-20 06:39:40

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Re: Human rentals.

Hi...Its so good..to hear that..

Is Diana the same which has a site called - Diana the Valkyre or www.wb270.com (New Window)

I have seen her many videos.

Sadistic girls are closed now...I think there name is - www.fetish-finca.com (New Window)

There is a similar Mistress called - Mistress T in Canada...she also shoots pony/shoulder riding videos ...but has condition of No Mask..

There are plenty of girls available to pay and ride...only thing is it Hurts wallets a lot..Washed out..


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#22 2019-09-20 12:09:05

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Re: Human rentals.

Sadistic-girls.com are alive and well. I was just recently talking to their manager. I simply skipped the space bar in their address big_smile

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#23 2019-09-21 06:25:01

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Re: Human rentals.

Misiulo:

Everything you said about the difficulty of such a business is true or course and most likely impractical in any  modern  society.

My intension was  never to start  such a business  or to  encourage such an  undertaking  but  only to learn if the people posting here would take advantage of such an operation  IF  it were  possible and available.   A no relationship, no complications, no personal  involvement business transaction to  use freely on my own  schedule exactly as if the carrier  (or  riders) were actual  horses.

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#24 2019-09-26 14:31:02

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Re: Human rentals.

Audrey:

If my work was supposed to be carrying You specifically, i'd apply today. Heck, i might even agree to start working for below minimum wage as an intern. But to carry some people i probably wouldn't touch with a 10 inch pole? No way.

That being said, i am not that pessimistic. Shoulder Uber could work. Not as a way of travelling obviously. And probably not as a full time job. But for matching people who like to carry and be carried? Why not.

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#25 2019-10-17 05:05:55

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Re: Human rentals.

strongponyAZ:

While I don't fully understand the position of a carrier in what you say but for various reasons, I have often been on the shoulders of carriers  that I couldn't have cared less  about. These instances were things like chicken-fights, cheerleading , random events such as parades and concerts and on two occasions contest challenges. The men  I was sitting on in many of these circumstances meant nothing at all to me. They were carriers or objects of convenience .

I found such situations rather more  liberating than taking advantage of  a friend or someone I had a relationship with.
That's why I wondered about the feelings of other  concerning a  "carrier rental" arrangement. A simple business transaction without the bother of a relationship of any  kind  and no more concern for the carrier  than  I would have for  a  rented  horse or a  rented car. 

Obviously there are some who  would prefer to carry others  and the reverse would be the same kind of  business arrangement, but I was looking at it  only from my  point of view.

Without going to extremes, the carrier would be little more than  a vehicle to be used by the rider at her/his discretion. A virtual  slave (if I  may use  the term) for as long as the rental  agreement term. The rider would have no  responsibility outside of the rental agreement and  rules of  the stable that rented  the carrier.  Other considerations  might be considered ,for example, I prefer to be carried by males but others may prefer female carriers. I assume the ability of the carrier to perform the service  to any particular  rider would be the responsibility of the business operator.

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#26 2019-10-18 10:54:40

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Re: Human rentals.

hello I have 3 young ladies between 25 and 35 rented for shoulder riding. they weighed 50 kg 1.68 large 56 kg 1,56 large and 49 kg 1.63 large
they wore skintight black boddys. When I walked in, two ladys jumped right and left on my shoulder. Later, they individually stepped on my shoulder for a ride. At the end of the 1/2 hour
all 3 rode on me on all fours and piggyback.
It was a nice time!

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#27 2019-11-26 15:41:12

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Re: Human rentals.

AAA+ wrote:

hello I have 3 young ladies between 25 and 35 rented for shoulder riding. they weighed 50 kg 1.68 large 56 kg 1,56 large and 49 kg 1.63 large
they wore skintight black boddys. When I walked in, two ladys jumped right and left on my shoulder. Later, they individually stepped on my shoulder for a ride. At the end of the 1/2 hour
all 3 rode on me on all fours and piggyback.
It was a nice time!

Oh yeah! I too would love to get in contact with those Ladies.

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#28 2019-11-26 17:33:48

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Re: Human rentals.

name: Lucy 017677191260 Hamburg  Spiking only Germen. and a litle bit English

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#29 2019-11-30 23:44:22

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Re: Human rentals.

Yes you want all 3 ladies Lucy, Kim, Cara and carry, then you have to call them.
The 3 ladies you can rent and pay
Haus Sunrise - Kieler Straße 368A, Hamburg-Stellingen ...

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#30 2020-03-10 04:02:09

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Re: Human rentals.

This is a very interesting topic and one that I think would go over.

My question(s) would be:

1. How would a ‘stable owner’ determine the weight limits and duration of time specifically for each carrier?

2. Would these rides be led with an experienced trail guide on top her mount and maybe one at the back of the pack to make sure the riders are doing ok and following the stables rules in place?

3. If a paying customer was an experienced rider wanting to use aids during his/her ride, would it be allowed?

4. I think it would be manageable if there was a few set trails one could pay to ride on. In the Midwest (USA) there are plenty of amazingly beautiful places people would love to ride!

**Like a true stable barn or excursion you go on involving horses, there is a weight limit for their horses. Typically it is 250 pounds. This would have to be a firm rule within the ‘human stable’ as well for the safety of all involved. Now, I’m not saying 250 pounds is the cutoff, but, maybe 200 or 210 pounds max?**

Just my $.02. Very interesting topic!

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#31 2020-04-08 19:16:44

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Re: Human rentals.

I never thought of renting someone for a shoulder ride but years ago on my 17th birthday my friends paid someone to push me around in a wheelchair all day , that was a fun and interesting experience

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#32 2020-04-09 09:59:48

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Re: Human rentals.

Any techie here??? This is actually a good idea !!!
Everybody will be benefited with this...

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#33 2021-08-02 16:25:06

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Re: Human rentals.

Audreyb wrote:

I was wondering if  anyone  would  take advantage of  a  rider/carrier rental type of  business?

A place where riders  could simply rent a  carrier  by the hour   and perhaps a carrier could rent  a  rider.

A simple business transaction without  complications. You don't care  about the person  you're  sitting on  and  they don't care  about  you. You  would perhaps have a  choice of  male or  female carriers or riders but have no  more personal regard than you would  for a  horse  or any  beast of burden.
It  might be possible in  such a  scenario  to arrange  for specific  clothing, positioning and other  conditions  for those with  special  tastes.

I think that such an arrangement  would be much  easier than the  complication of a  relationship where  you care about the  person  under or on top of you. It's just his or her  job and  you  don't have to  bother yourself about them  at all.

A quite interesting and attractive business- idea.
But such a business-idea just worked 20 or 30 years ago in some far away countries.
Today in the time of cellphones and internet it won't work.

I also had a quite similar idea with some of my girlfriends and co-partners at the stable.
A lot of girls and ladies show up in the stables for taking lessons.
Quite a lot of them are really scared sitting that high on the horseback and they are scared by the fear of the power of the horse.
Horses can become quickly aggressive and crazy.
So I thought training for some time on human horses would make it much easier for those girls and ladies until they are used to ride.

Of course such a special lesson would cost quite a lot more than a riding lesson on a horse.
Finding the right guys they could make themselves useful and we at the riding stable would have an additional income.
Especially the female instructors could overtake this task.
Using young convicts could be an interesting pool of human horses by giving therm the choice going to jail or to serves human horses.

I have herd that in Russia they have private bootcamps of this type far away from towns anywhere the visitors can do whatever they want as long as they pay.

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