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It's obvious that there are many aspects to riding on someone's shoulders and equally that of carrying someone on your shoulders.
To state the obvious, it can be completely utilitarian, simple innocent fun, part of a performance such as dancing or cheerleading, practicality such as elevating someone for a view, or it might be erotic on the part of either or both parties which could include domination and submission with either the rider or carrier taking control of the other.
I'm quite aware that some people find it erotic to have someone's legs astride their head and neck and perhaps equally so to have another person's head/neck between their thighs. Bearing someone's body weight or having someone bear yours may be dominant and/or erotically dominant for those inclined in this direction. I need not mention the obvious implication of the proximity of genitalia to the person one is sitting on or being sat upon.
As I have said before, I believe that the act of carrying or being carried in this manner is exactly and only what each party perceives it to be and whatever enjoyment might be taken from either position need not be mutual or assumed to be mutual and could be a completely private matter for either or both parties involved.
I recently considered this while talking to a friend on the subject and in contemplating some remarks I had previously made here on this forum. Remembering how my first shoulder riding outing with this friend on a barrowed carrier started with me being almost apologetic , to rather resentful and demanding and ultimately to one of general indifference toward the man assigned as my carrier.
Now I'm curious if other riders and carriers have similar feelings or experiences and if their feelings and motives are generally always the same or if they change when riding or carrying different people under different conditions. Any points of view on this subject would be welcome and appreciated.
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I was having a similar conversation with my significant other recently. She knew that I get sexual gratification from shoulder-riding, and so she would attempt to add to my enjoyment in that fashion. Her main attempts were by making soft, sexual moans while riding each other in a swimming pool, and by making piggyback-related dirty talk during sexual intercourse. I found that neither of these tactics enhanced my pleasure at all, because for me, as it turns out, sex is sex and riding is riding. They achieve the same results for me, but neither one is dependent upon the other.
When I discussed this with her, she asked me where my passion for shoulder-riding came from if it wasn't purely erotic. I told her that, as best as I could tell, shoulder-riding was just an extension of my fondness for women's legs. When I'm being ridden, her legs brush my face and wrap around my body, and in this position I can feel every subtle movement in her thighs as she maintains her balance. When I'm riding, on the other hand, I take pleasure in feeling/seeing the slight wobble of her legs as she exerts the strength she needs to remain standing. Those two acts, while they give me a sexual rush, are not wrapped up in sex itself. I don't finish a shoulder ride and feel the need to immediately climax, just as the shoulder ride is not a prerequisite to climax.
Supporting this is my friendship with Blanc, my male friend of whom I've *previously written accounts. I don't personally identify as homosexual, and so I neither had nor desired sex with Blanc. However, in high school, he frequently agreed to give me shoulder rides, often for no other reason than that we both enjoyed it. There is no doubt we both got sexual pleasure from this, but our pleasure was independent of each other. Shoulder-riding was the extent of our sexual relationship; it never needed to go any further.
Last edited by phantom (2017-05-26 23:35:28)
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phantom:
I found your remarks and views quite interesting and oddly similar to my feelings.
I am exclusively a rider of course and I doubt I could carry anyone even if I was inclined to attempt it.
My friend, the one who brought about my interest in this activity also expressed feelings rather more similar to yours (and mine) in a separate aspect of eroticism that is not a precursor to sexual contact or as and form of foreplay. His view is that the person he chooses to carry him should not expect to become a sexual partner or to ever be considered for that role. He is exclusively gay as I said, but it was very much like your expressed feelings in riding on your friend Blanc.
Likewise, I may find it somewhat erotically exciting to sit on a man's shoulders or I may not. It may depend on who he is or my general mood but in any case, what I'm feeling and why I'm enjoying the position is completely personal and whatever my carrier is feeling is equally personal.
I enjoy the stress of the man beneath me as well and in searching my feelings this enjoyment is derived partially from the feeling of being served by someone stressed and humbling himself to serve me. I might have considered this a part of my feminine nature but for my gay friend and now you seemingly having similar feelings.
The line between sensuality and sexuality is obviously both vague and varied for men and women as well as heterosexuals and homosexuals. I find this quite intriguing .
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This one is easy to answer, at least for me. I also think some favor shoulder-riding for practical reasons such as having a good view in a open-air festival/concert&similar or lifting each others when there is for example no stepladder around to help you get to higher places and alike. Some would do all of that without even having the slightest erotic thought and think of it as something useful or beneficial in a specific situation.
And then there are other riders I have met who wouldn't tell you straight away that they are enjoying it but they use the momentum to stay on top and act like it, for example sit longer where others would have dismounted, ask you to walk here and there while they stay seated and so on.
For me shoulder-riding has always been very erotic. It is the meaning of using your strength, your endurance and your will to exhaust yourself to let her have a comfortable ride on top. And even that has to be put slightly different: you are not using your strength (so you can decide what to do) but rather she is using your strength to decide what she wants to do with it. Up to here this is all about erotic thoughts&minds but then there is also the sensory satisfaction of having your head in between your riders legs, feeling the soft skin on your neck and cheeks, simply enjoying the feeling of someone sitting on you. These feelings really lasts for quite some time of the ride and then after a long while the muscles getting sore, you feel exhausted, you do not want to go on and yet you don't stop. You don't have those previous feelings anymore, you just feel exhausted, you feel pain, you realize you are being used and this is the sensation I get from being dominated. And yes, in my book all of that is very erotic.
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Alex:
I wonder if a poll was conducted and honest answers could be obtained, how many riders and carriers would admit to an erotic desire and of those, how many would put an emphasis on sensations over the domination/submission aspect.
Ruling out sexual positions for the sake of this discussion, the acts of sitting on and being sat upon by another person seems to be a rather common fetish type activity and implies a dominant/submissive relationship in general.
Obviously there are instances where this does not apply, and equally obviously, situations where one individual in either position may find it personally erotic and the other may not see it that way at all.
I might also suggest that the person sitting on the other would find it desirable for a longer period than the person who is being sat upon. I would imagine this is generally true whether the sitter is sat upon the carrier/seat's shoulders or his cheat, back or anywhere he might be supporting the other person's weight.
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Audreyb wrote:
Alex:
I wonder if a poll was conducted and honest answers could be obtained, how many riders and carriers would admit to an erotic desire and of those, how many would put an emphasis on sensations over the domination/submission aspect.
Ruling out sexual positions for the sake of this discussion, the acts of sitting on and being sat upon by another person seems to be a rather common fetish type activity and implies a dominant/submissive relationship in general.
Obviously there are instances where this does not apply, and equally obviously, situations where one individual in either position may find it personally erotic and the other may not see it that way at all.
I might also suggest that the person sitting on the other would find it desirable for a longer period than the person who is being sat upon. I would imagine this is generally true whether the sitter is sat upon the carrier/seat's shoulders or his cheat, back or anywhere he might be supporting the other person's weight.
I would say after all my experiences there has been mostly a quite strict aspect by the girls and much more by the adult ladies.
I could feel that on my neck how much they rubbed their pussies on my neck.
But there never has been more. (quite apart from quite different erotic practices)
Most enjoyed deeply their power and being free to rule over me.
Even the girls were using this position and there has always been quite a
good part of real female sadism.
I was nothing but a beast of burden for them and this way they were treating me.
If I did refuse or not obey to them as they expected me to do, they could get extremely rude and absolutely furious.
As long as they stood in front of me they were treating me almost in a quite reasonable way like a human being, although they wanted to be. in command and never were accepting contradictions of mine or hear a refusal of me.
They gave the orders and I had to obey.
But as soon as they sat on my neck, their attitude changed completely and they became in general harsh and ruthless.
Even the very young girls were reacting this way.
Sitting on me they were the mistress and I was their slave and sitting on a slave gave them the right using me also for their erotic pleasure.
They did not hide much their erotic feelings.
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