Ultimate shoulder rides

We always need to remind ourseleves an angel always sit on our shoulders...

Carry On,
Doverh3

Hello
We are humans, we are  normal, we are not ill.
In the beginning humans were nomad however, most of humans are sedentary now.
Humans are predators, we can hunt and fight; humans are pastors and farmers too.
Our ancestors carried their preys (dears, sheeps) and bagging vegetables (potatoes, corn) on their shoulders. Our ancestors could eat them.
Nowadays we couldn't carry preys and bagging vegetables, however I can carry my prey: a woman.

Could you explain your message?
I don't understad it.

doverh3 wrote:

We always need to remind ourseleves an angel always sit on our shoulders...

Carry On,
Doverh3

From Wikipedia:

A shoulder angel is a plot device used for either dramatic or humorous effect in animation and comic strips. The angel represents conscience and is often accompanied by a shoulder devil representing temptation. They are handy for easily showing inner conflict of a character. Usually, the angel is depicted on (or hovering near) the right shoulder and the devil or demon on the left, as the left side traditionally represents dishonesty or impurity (see Negative associations of left-handedness in language).

The shoulder angel often uses the iconography of a traditional angel, with wings, a robe, a halo, and sometimes a harp. The shoulder devil likewise usually looks like a traditional devil with reddish skin, horns, a pitchfork and (sometimes) cloven hooves. The idea originates from the Christian concept of a personal guardian angel, who was often considered to be matched by a personal devil who countered the angel's efforts, especially in popular medieval dramas, like the 15th century The Castle of Perseverance. In both this and Christopher Marlowe's play The Tragical History of Doctor Faustus, of about 1592, the "Good Angel" and "Bad Angel" offer competing advice (Act 2, scene 1, etc.) to the hero. In several modern fictional stories, a way of showing that a certain character is especially evil or mischiveous is by showing the character with a second shoulder devil instead of the angel, showing the shoulder angel giving the character the same bad (or worse) advice as the devil or by showing them being persuaded by the devil to kick the angel out.

There is a similar Islamic belief of Kirama Katibin, two angels residing on either shoulder of humans which record their good and bad deeds. However, these angels do not have influence over the choices one makes, and only record one's deeds. They are also called Qareen.

doverh3 wrote:

We always need to remind ourseleves an angel always sit on our shoulders...

Carry On,
Doverh3

Hi.. i have actually written wht i felt...that why we actually like to be the beast of burden since the day we r born from..
why we like to be under weight..and enjoy that feeling..while it is tough being able to carry some-one..obviously..whether the rider is male or female..

obv.. i like..being a horse..and will do that.. till i am alive. and there are so many like us...so we r having a community like this..
but being under a weight is such a good feeling..i was just thinking..that god has made our physical bodies like this...that the carrier..can carry the rider..perfectly..and rider can sit and enjoy on shoulders...

so may be from starting of this world.. shoulder riding..wud be more popular..as there were less mode of transport available there.

and i have also heard..that there were some villages.in old times..where people carry other people..to other places..and earn from it only..
it was there job..to carry people from one place to another...

does anyone knows more about this...

doverh3 wrote:

I didn't expect my statement would enter religion theme so deeply. Every culture is different and unique in every way from the past, present, future, beyond our imaginations, and other dimensions we unaware until it is disclose when we pass away. Sounds deep huh?
  A famous saint by the name of St. Christopher ( who I admire by the way) carried countless of fellow travelers on his shoulders. I won't get into detail about him, but I believed he carried angels on his shoulders or should I say human beings both young and old, women and children, rich and poor, and forgotten burdens this once powerful saint did until he was martyr. So an "angel" is a figure of speech which I like to use, but I'm not the only one. Those who like called them devils so be it.

Carry On,
doverh3

I am a bit concerned by these angels riding on our shoulders -is this going to be a permanent feature of humans-we have to be careful -perhaps we should all the angels to weightwatchers.
Other wise we could be getting bow legged humans.

SAINT CHISTOPHER:
... He met a hermit who instructed him in the Christian faith. Christopher asked him how he could serve Christ. When the hermit suggested fasting and prayer, Christopher replied that he was unable to perform that service. The hermit then suggested that because of his size and strength Christopher could serve Christ by assisting people to cross a dangerous river, where they were perishing in the attempt. The hermit promised that this service would be pleasing to Christ.[citation needed]

After Christopher had performed this service for some time, a little child asked him to take him across the river. During the crossing, the river became swollen and the child seemed as heavy as lead, so much that Christopher could scarcely carry him and found himself in great difficulty. When he finally reached the other side, he said to the child: "You have put me in the greatest danger. I do not think the whole world could have been as heavy on my shoulders as you were." The child replied: "You had on your shoulders not only the whole world but Him who made it. I am Christ your king, whom you are serving by this work." The child then vanished ...

Summary: Saint Christopher carried (on his shoulders) a lot of people, helping to cross a dangereous river.

doverh3 wrote:

I didn't expect my statement would enter religion theme so deeply. Every culture is different and unique in every way from the past, present, future, beyond our imaginations, and other dimensions we unaware until it is disclose when we pass away. Sounds deep huh?
  A famous saint by the name of St. Christopher ( who I admire by the way) carried countless of fellow travelers on his shoulders. I won't get into detail about him, but I believed he carried angels on his shoulders or should I say human beings both young and old, women and children, rich and poor, and forgotten burdens this once powerful saint did until he was martyr. So an "angel" is a figure of speech which I like to use, but I'm not the only one. Those who like called them devils so be it.

Carry On,
doverh3

Bow legged.

If we have to much weight on our shoulders-the first things to give way would by our legs-they would wobble and open apart at the knees -hence bow legged.

You are using the wrong type of horse.These shire horses are more for Joan Of Arc.

As to the weight of angels 17.3 gm is just the weight of the wings-the spirit weighs much more.

I am now 75 years old, weak and frail, unable to sustain any of this, but I am still fascinated by all the female sitting positions mentioned by Trigger. I am still like this after so many years. AND I DO NOT YET KNOW WHY!
--- Sorry about the delay; I had accidentally entered this in the wrong discussion trail!

Thank you,  Caballito !

caballito wrote:

SAINT CHISTOPHER:
... He met a hermit who instructed him in the Christian faith. Christopher asked him how he could serve Christ. When the hermit suggested fasting and prayer, Christopher replied that he was unable to perform that service. The hermit then suggested that because of his size and strength Christopher could serve Christ by assisting people to cross a dangerous river, where they were perishing in the attempt. The hermit promised that this service would be pleasing to Christ.[citation needed]

After Christopher had performed this service for some time, a little child asked him to take him across the river. During the crossing, the river became swollen and the child seemed as heavy as lead, so much that Christopher could scarcely carry him and found himself in great difficulty. When he finally reached the other side, he said to the child: "You have put me in the greatest danger. I do not think the whole world could have been as heavy on my shoulders as you were." The child replied: "You had on your shoulders not only the whole world but Him who made it. I am Christ your king, whom you are serving by this work." The child then vanished ...

Summary: Saint Christopher carried (on his shoulders) a lot of people, helping to cross a dangereous river.

doverh3 wrote:

I didn't expect my statement would enter religion theme so deeply. Every culture is different and unique in every way from the past, present, future, beyond our imaginations, and other dimensions we unaware until it is disclose when we pass away. Sounds deep huh?
  A famous saint by the name of St. Christopher ( who I admire by the way) carried countless of fellow travelers on his shoulders. I won't get into detail about him, but I believed he carried angels on his shoulders or should I say human beings both young and old, women and children, rich and poor, and forgotten burdens this once powerful saint did until he was martyr. So an "angel" is a figure of speech which I like to use, but I'm not the only one. Those who like called them devils so be it.

Carry On,
doverh3

Hi Initially you said-God made us to carry people.
God also made buses,lorries,cars and fork lift trucks-are you saying that we are like all those.If so which one are you like?

Sorry-dont agree-it is all God's business-after all he made us.
How many God's do you want-one for every day of the week and perhaps a couple on saturdays and sundays.
Who are all these God's wandering about.
What are they doing? Surely one is enough.

Hey Mastadon,
I have said if u read clearly, that why God has made us like this, tht we enjoy carrying other people, while this is the work of real pony's or donkey's.
i just wanted to express my feelings, tht why from starting of our birth, we enjoy being under the weight of females, while it is tough to carry them, but we still do till the end of our lives.
got it now.

mastadon777 wrote:

Hi Initially you said-God made us to carry people.
God also made buses,lorries,cars and fork lift trucks-are you saying that we are like all those.If so which one are you like?

God is Only One, but he takes diff. avtaarsor diff. forms for diff. people's.
I believe, while there is only 1 God in diff. forms, but there are many angels.[in hindi - devi and devtas]
Acc. to Indian culture, we belive that these angels uses diff. forms of carriers to move , mostly carriers are - animals.
but one angel uses human as his carrier.
i dont know whether its true or not, but i have heard it many times.

caballito wrote:

This is my opinion (could be true or false): In the Bible, in the Spanish text was written that God said "Hagamos al hombre a nuestra imagen y semejanza (Let us make man in our image and likeness)". There is Elohim: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim.  God is plural, is not singular. Elohim is all gods.

God (he, she, it or them) gave us freedom or free will. We were not created just to carry people because we were created to be free. In our death we will be judged by our actions.

Is a sin to carry people? Is a sin to ride on people? I don't think so.

mastadon777 wrote:

Sorry-dont agree-it is all God's business-after all he made us.
How many God's do you want-one for every day of the week and perhaps a couple on saturdays and sundays.
Who are all these God's wandering about.
What are they doing? Surely one is enough.

Really Sorry Sir..
Just read ur comment sincerely now...its nothing about india..
frankly, i read it in continous, so just got angried..away..
but i am really sorry for my mistake.
sorry once again.

caballito wrote:

ok, ok.
I said nothing and I said nothing about India. Did I?

trigger wrote:

Hey Caballito,
India is the country which has the largest no.of English speaking population, and i don't have any translation problems,
ask masatdon first...he has not read my views properly , and just commented.
and Caballito sir, dont comment on any one or any country, without knowing it.

caballito wrote:

Trigger is from India, I guess he had translation problems.
Gods (there is not 1 God because there are several Gods) don't made us to carry people.
We own the Free Will and I'd carry a girl/woman because I want it, there is not Gods' business. 

It is too bad that this important thread turned into theological polemics! What we really want to know is why we are this way, keen on having another person sit on our shoulders. For those who believe in God(s), it is natural to formulate this question as: Why did God make us like this? But the basic question (as I put it above) remains the same for everyone of us.

If there was a mistake, it was mine.
Trigger Sorry because I am not an Anglophone and sometimes the translators translate the messages with errors.
Apologies.

trigger wrote:

Really Sorry Sir..
Just read ur comment sincerely now...its nothing about india..
frankly, i read it in continous, so just got angried..away..
but i am really sorry for my mistake.
sorry once again.

caballito wrote:

ok, ok.
I said nothing and I said nothing about India. Did I?

trigger wrote:

Hey Caballito,
India is the country which has the largest no.of English speaking population, and i don't have any translation problems,
ask masatdon first...he has not read my views properly , and just commented.
and Caballito sir, dont comment on any one or any country, without knowing it.

Another WOW!!!-do not forget that after the first bite,their clothes fell off-the first naked shoulder ride.

We are not like real horses, real donkeys, or real ponies.
We can choose our horsewoman or female rider.
If I don't like a woman or a girl, she won't ride on me like her horse.

trigger wrote:

Hey Mastadon,
I have said if u read clearly, that why God has made us like this, tht we enjoy carrying other people, while this is the work of real pony's or donkey's.
i just wanted to express my feelings, tht why from starting of our birth, we enjoy being under the weight of females, while it is tough to carry them, but we still do till the end of our lives.
got it now.

mastadon777 wrote:

Hi Initially you said-God made us to carry people.
God also made buses,lorries,cars and fork lift trucks-are you saying that we are like all those.If so which one are you like?

2 Samuel 22:11
"He (Yaveh or Yahve or Jehovah) rode on a cherub, and flew. Yes, he was seen on the wings of the wind".
http://www.gotquestions.org/cherubim.html 
Why God is a male? God could be a female.

mastadon777 wrote:

Looking at it another way-God made us in his likeness-we dont know what he does up there-he may go shoulder riding all the time on a bevy of arc-angels.
What we have done is to show a certain amount of sense in finding something we like doing and getting on with it.
If God did not like it-just watch out for the thunderbolts.

You are right.
I said that I've wanted to carry several females (women and girls) because I like it.
I don't know if God intervened in my desire to carry females (women and girls).
If the demon intervened, my desire will be a sin (Could I burn in hell?)

mastadon777 wrote:

God could be-he is in 3 parts-God-God the son-and God the holy spirit-There is no reason why God should not be a woman.
The very fact that God is God should be enough.

Amen.

I only can carry one woman each time, I am a weak horse.
Oh my God! English is not my mother language and I said "I've wanted to carry several females" because If I like a woman or a girl, I'll want to be ridden by her.
Otherwise, If I don't like a woman or a girl, she won't ride on me.
Is my power, is my decision.
Greetings.

mastadon777 wrote:

I take it that you only want to carry these females one at a time-otherwise I might be tempted to enter you for the Mr Universe contest.
I find your attitude quite acceptable-please carry on.

Bless you my child.

Is that the only difference?

I think that some people wish they were actual horses-what ever turns them on.