Ultimate shoulder rides

movieyou2003 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMsUBJlWIDQ

this is bit different, but it's very sexy, I don't know if everybody likes it!

Dear Movieyou2003:

I did not enjoy the aforementioned video submitted. Also, I believe it was too sexually suggestive for this website and could get this website sanctioned. In my opinion, examples of activities that are sexually suggestive but not too sexually suggestive are couples involved in shoulder riding with clothes on with crotch against back of neck, waltzing, dancing the tango, swing dancing, the salsa, the samba, female singers wiggling their bodies as they sing, etc.

Never the less, some people in the video, guys and gals both, apparently enjoyed what they saw.  Please find some other place to show this and remove it from the view of all with access to the internet.

for me is a very very nice video!

Uncle Sam, move over.. and stop bullshitting

ringo wrote:

Great video! who is this rude and annoying guy name "namaegaaru" who tells everybody here what to do? I don't like the way he talks to people here like he runs this place.

I did state objection to a video and firmly asked it be posted elsewhere than on this site. That is not "telling" anybody what to do like I run this place.  I also told somebody else how he may wish to refrain from name-calling somebody which is a suggestion and not "telling" somebody how to behave like I run the place.

Regarding who "runs the place," all who participate in discusssions, and upload videos and pictures help run the place.
Regarding who TELLS members how to how to behave or decides in the end what will be posted or deleted, I believe that is the decision of the administration or "admin."  Clicking on the link, "administration" revealed no names of members of administration.  I did not find any members of "admin" listed under the section for technical problems while searching in the last twenty-four hours. I did find only one person's name with "admin" listed next to it in all the pages listing members names, Nick.  Therefore it appears to me that Nick equals "admin" and "admin" equals Nick such that I believe that final decisions regarding postings and members' conduct belong to Nick.

Nick may wish to consider that the video I objected to was not available for viewing on Youtube.com when I looked for directly on that site. This video was clearly more about something else besides shoulder riding. Again this is only a suggestion, not an order. I find it to only Nick's place to give orders and members' place to communicate wishes or suggestions. Maybe the uploader on Youtube.com removed it.  Maybe there was an unintentional technical problem. Maybe the staff of Youtube  removed it because they thought it was in that website's interest.

For the issues that you, I, and some others are in disagreement, I believe Nick gets to decide what to do even if he decides to do nothing.  We, on the other hand, have the option of living with his decision or not.

I am still an administrator on this site, alrhough Nick is the principal one. I have been following this discussion with interest.

One of the great things about this group is the activity it generates - many other similar interest groups are dead. We try to cover a broad range of preferences and tolerance is therefore important. Obviously we must keep within the bounds of decency and obey the basic ground rules of this community sponsor. One of these is not to post items that are obscene or would give offence.

My personal belief is that the erotic video in question does not fall within the area of obscenity or indecency. Don't forget that the youtube police have a fairly comprehensive policy of their own and this video would probably have been removed by them if they had considered it unacceptable.

I suspect that most of our members either enjoyed this video or at least just accepted it as a fair contribution. One can certainly post comments or ideas, but I think in this case the language used was not warranted - we are not an evangelical group.

Accordingly I do not propose to remove this item and I would encourage moderation of language in future. I will defer to Nick's or Scotty's opinion if they feel differently.

Travers

To determine if the video stays or not how about:

Checking with the web administrator?

Conducting a poll with the members?

This should give the administration the best insight on which to base a decision.

I have yet to learn how to do a poll.

Dear Gunde:

You may be right. Maybe a poll is not neccessary. So far, as a result of this video, I have not perceived a shorter members' list. It may be useful to the administration to get a better idea how members in general feel about the video. Unlike me, most people do not speak out. They just quietly leave. Never the less,  I suspect this website will continue to exist even if no such poll is done. I will leave it to the administration to decide all policies and procedures as all should do with the administration.

Regarding your statement about the legality of posting a link to another website, I can ony hope the web provider agrees. Business arrangements are often terminated even if in the opinion of all concerned, no illegal activity occurred. Only the administration gets to contact the web provider and to contact or not is only the administration's decision as we all know.

Just curious.  What are your sources of information regarding the legality of posting a link to another website regardless of what it contains? Since this website has administrators residing in different countries with participating members doing the same, which countries laws are involved? Sweeden's where Nick reportedly resides? The countries where the other administrators reside too? Did you look up the laws of each of these countries regarding the posting of links on websites? If so, how did you look these laws up? What makes you sure of this legality?

Even though the following appear to not be right to this "Uncle Sam" it is to my understanding that my country, that United States of America has ruled beyond the borders of its States and Territorial Possesions in managing to put a stop to mfx video.com.br's operations in more than just in United States' jurisdiction even though  I believe mfxvideo.com.br to be headquartered in Brazil simply because my country's government found some elements of that website to be inappropriate despite my government's Constitutional guarantee's of freedom of expression and despite the honest belief of most Americans I have dealt with that when you are in somebody else's house you follow the rules there or leave. 

Regarding pictures or videos of clothed adults giving shoulder rides to clothed children, if there is a problem there, I see no reason for it.  Such an action is only a gesture of love and a bearing of tribute to these children that are rightlfully the beloved princes and princesses that they are. What are the underlying concerns with giving shoulder rides to children such that videos and photos of such need be prohibited? Most parents in the Americas, Austrailia, Europe, much of Asia, and much of Africa do give shoulder rides to their princes and princesses as I did to mine.

You are correct Gunde. YOU did not say it is wrong to show pictures or videos of adults giving children shoulder rides. I would not be surprised if no member of this website has an objection to such a picture or video. If I remember correctly, Nick cautioned us members against displayiing them before the general public because some government officials may misinterpret our motives. I believe most people would get no sexual stimulation from such videos or pictures but just see this as something sweet and wonderful as when a woman hugs and kisses her baby. Sorry I came across the wrong way.

I am guessing that in your training with the justice department of country, you learned about the aforementioned legalities.

Don't worry, I have no desire to split atoms to get every law enforced that would make it almost impossible to get this site to function. I  prefer to continue to  enjoy pictures  and videos of affectionate, non-sadistic
shoulder riding and participate in civilized polite discussions such as the one  you, Gunde, are conducting. As far as the sadistic stuff goes I know I have the option of over looking that stuff just as some have the option of ignoring me versus cussing at me.

Thankyou for your input,  your civil tone, and for taking the time and trouble to make sense to me.

Do not worry about it. No matter what you  or I or anybody does some people approve and some disapprove. In the end you simply need to be able to live with yourself. Apparently I have been severly out voted on this website and will have to live with it.