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#1 2009-08-23 15:38:48

DICK
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LIZ & ROGER

HAS ANYONE HEARD FROM LIZ SINCE SHE AND ROGER GOT MARRIED? I DO HOPE EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT AND THEY ARE SAFE AT HOME! MAYBE THEY ARE JUST TOO BUSY!

DICK

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#2 2009-08-23 16:13:51

namaegaaru
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Re: LIZ & ROGER

No, I have not and noticed that her former email address has been changed to Nick's email address.

I suppose she is gone for good.

I will try her former email address anyway.


Sam

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#3 2009-08-23 16:22:48

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

I tried emailing her at ridingblonde@aol.com but this email address was indicated to be non-existent.

Nick, would you please tell us what you can.


Sam

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#4 2009-08-24 07:09:16

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

Do people still remember "Jockey Jill"?  How long now has it been since we lost "Jockey Jill"?

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#5 2009-08-24 07:56:55

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

I think it was January 2003 that we got this sad message from her boyfriend ...
In 2002 I was still in contact with her (just checked my emails from that time). So it must be short after that ...

Of course I remember her - she was an amazing personality.

best wishes,
xxx123yyy

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#6 2009-08-24 18:06:59

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

Hi everyone,

I speak for me and the co-admins of this community.

I'm sorry to inform that Liz and Roger turned out to be fiction characters, invented by a certain member. It may have been difficult to imagine as Liz seemed to be very kind and experienced, supplying many interesting and detailed stories and opinions.

However, we found out for sure one day that this Liz never existed more than in the mind of a member who wanted to have some fun. Unfortunately, this is the sad reality of anonymous internet forums - we cannot be 100% sure who a member is until we have actually met the member in person or in other ways got some kind of reliable proof.

We have dealt with this issue accordingly as we have a responsibility towards the community. The Liz contact email is since some time directed to me to avoid confusion from members who try to reach her.

If anyone has any specific questions or comments about this decision, please contact me directly and we can discuss it from there.

Regards,
Nick

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#7 2009-08-24 20:50:19

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

I THINK THAT WHOEVER THESE PEOPLE OR PERSONS WERE SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO BE A MEMBER OF THIS GROUP! IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT THIS PERSON OR PERSONS WERE MAKING A MOCKERY OF YOUR CLUB AND OUR FETISHES WHATEVER YOU WISH TO CALL IT! I BET THEY WERE GETTING A BIG LAUGH EVERYTIME SOMEONE EXPESSED THEIR OPINION OR FEELINGS! IT'S TOO BAD THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD THAT PREY ON PEOPLE LIKE US! IF THERE ARE ANY MORE SOCALLED MEMBERS THAT ARE DOING THIS, PLEASE STOP! FOR THE GOOD OF THE CLUB!!

DICK

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#8 2009-08-24 20:52:41

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

ANOTHER THOUGHT!!!

WAS THE PERSONS PRETENDING TO BE LIZ AND ROGER AT LEAST A FEMALE AND MALE?

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#9 2009-08-24 21:42:59

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

Liz, Roger and Jockey Jill were all the invention of the same male person.
Regarding Jill, he told us she would have passed away to see the groups reaction. Soon after that he came up with the Riding Blonde. Roger was just part of that story.
I feel sorry too. Unfortunately it's never granted that somone who claims to be female and tell us great stories is really who we should think. But this is a common problem on the internet anyway. It's sad though.

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#10 2009-08-25 11:00:40

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

Aren't people being just a little bit precious or naive?  Surely it is fairly obvious that most if not all of so-called female members of this forum are really guys.  And so what?  They enjoy themselves and so do the people who like their kind of stories.  Shoulder rding is a sexual fetish and, like most fetishes, it attracts men and not women for all sorts of complicated socio-psychological reasons, but hey, Freud I'm not!  There's no point trying to pretend otherwise.  Why should anyone want to pretend otherwise anyway?  It is perfectly harmless.  Whatever turns you on, I say, unless it does any harm to others.  Having 'female' contributors to this community is fun, so where is the harm?  Lets just use our imaginations. It's all about suspension of belief.  We do it in the movies so why not here?

I hope no one is offended by my remarks, if so, I apologise in advance.

Ben

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#11 2009-08-25 11:01:21

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

I mentioned "Jockey Jill" in this thread because those posts were remarkably similar to those from "Riding Blonde."  Liz appeared on the scene shortly after Jill vanished - convenient timing.  I'm not at all surprised, rather another member and I who speak over the phone suspected this years ago.  Please remember that most fetishes, including ours, are male in origin.

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#12 2009-08-25 17:19:28

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

Of course this is only a board of people with quite the same interest. We won't know or meet eachother anyway. And the internet is the best place for deceptions like this.
But sometimes it happens that people arrange meetings with others they know only from the net. I admit, I have done that too and I am certainly not the only one here.
IF anyone would have decided to go to London to meet with Liz and THEN would have found out that "she" couldn't make it to the date for some specific reason it could have meant a financial damage if that would have been the cause of the travel. A disappointment at least. That's what has to be considered before you meet with somebody. I was close to do that but didn't as I couldn't afford the money at that time.
People should be honest about themselves though. That's a question of respect. As we say: treat others as you want to be treated by them.
On the other hand we should keep in mind that we are only internet acquaintances for eachother and whatever is written here does not really effect our personal life. We can have fun here and exchange interesting experiences about our common interest but that's it.

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#13 2009-08-25 19:50:34

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

I would like to add that there are indeed real women members among us although they can surely be counted on one hand. Based on the experiences here, it would be wise to have a certain degree of scepticism when getting acquainted with female members. It would be wise also to treat the few female members we have with care as they might be real.

One way to be rather sure about the gender, is to ask the member for an audio recording where she speaks about the ultimate shoulder ride community - if she sounds convincing, the odds are high that she really is a female. Another way is to speak with her or ask an administrator if he has any further information about her. This can be a good rule before arranging a meeting or initiate any closer relationship.

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#14 2009-08-25 21:01:57

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

I am shocked !!! Jockey Jill is / was a fiction ...

I just remeber, how many private stories I told her (??) / him ....
F-ck !!!

How did you (all) found out that someone is cheating us .. ?


xxx123yyy

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#15 2009-08-25 22:33:40

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

Regarding approaching administrator for further information on a possible female, how do you feel about having the female give her permission first for you to give out information on her? I suspect most females would want that. It is possible they may  want additional  information administrators have on the guys.


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#16 2009-08-25 23:55:34

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

xxx123yyy wrote:

I am shocked !!! Jockey Jill is / was a fiction ...

I just remeber, how many private stories I told her (??) / him ....
F-ck !!!

How did you (all) found out that someone is cheating us .. ?


xxx123yyy

I'm sorry to say it, but a real woman would not write with the graphic detail "Jill" did, time-and-time again.  But a man who shares our fetish will know what we want to hear, what turns us on.  Look at what my female concert friend S. wrote a couple of times in my old posts and compare it to the fake women.  Women in general are not fetishists. 

The friend who I met through this Board and I picked up on this YEARS ago.  Didn't Liz and Jill sound the same?  Also, 23-year-old girls (like "Jill") rarely die suddenly.

Last edited by Jeff (2009-08-27 00:08:28)

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#17 2009-08-26 02:29:53

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

Jeff wrote:

xxx123yyy wrote:

I am shocked !!! Jockey Jill is / was a fiction ...

I just remeber, how many private stories I told her (??) / him ....
Fu-ck !!!

How did you (all) found out that someone is cheating us .. ?


xxx123yyy

I'm sorry to say it, but a real woman would not write with the graphic detail "Jill" did, time-and-time again.  But a man who shares our fetish will know what we want to hear, what turns us on.  Look at what my female concert friend S. wrote a couple of times in my old posts and compare it to the fake women.  Women in general are not fetishists. 

The friend who I met through this Board and I picked this up this on case YEARS ago.  Didn't Liz and Jill sound the same?  Also, 23-year-old girls (like "Jill") rarely die suddenly.

Hey Jeff. Well, it finally came out. We spoke about this many times via phone. Amazing.

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#18 2009-08-26 04:16:58

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

I got suspicious about Aug2, 2008 when "she" said to me that  "she" could not control "her" typing on a keyboard while sitting on "Roger's" shoulders, after having ridden him frequently such that "she" should have been used to it. "She" certainly fooled me when "she" later told about the plots to make the "dear horse" think it was his idea to give "her" a shoulder ride. After all, women want the men to propose or ask.


Sam

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#19 2009-08-26 09:57:04

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

namaegaaru wrote:

Regarding approaching administrator for further information on a possible female, how do you feel about having the female give her permission first for you to give out information on her? I suspect most females would want that. It is possible they may  want additional  information administrators have on the guys.

Yes, of course we fully respect the privacy of all members, males and females, and will not reveal any details without approval first.

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#20 2009-08-26 10:06:48

Nick
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Re: LIZ & ROGER

xxx123yyy wrote:

How did you (all) found out that someone is cheating us .. ?
xxx123yyy

Administrators have their means. It is not allowed to use several membership names, which was the case here, and this lead to our further investigation.

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#21 2009-08-26 20:11:47

xxx123yyy
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Re: LIZ & ROGER

OK, understand ...

is the "MALE MEMBER" (who is still not named by anyone in this discussion) someone who we all good know ???

I would be glad to know, since he isn't worth to share so many private stories with anymore ... thank you.

cheers,
xxx123yyy

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#22 2009-08-27 23:30:17

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

Let us go into the case of two the two ladies{I use that word advisedly}. Did any one ever get any pictures of RB sent to them-because some years ago I was sent six pictures of JJ and her boyfriend doing exercises againgst the wall of her New York flat-including shoulder riding-these purported to have come direct from JJ.At that time I was in regular E-mail contact with her-how easily can we be fooled.

These pictures came airmail from New York-I have being trying to find them but no luck.
It seems strange that that both of them are still members of several yahoo clubs of the same persuasion,our trickster must have set his net quite wide.


Taurus.a well meaning pony

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#23 2009-08-28 15:21:23

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

It would appear to me that from the information provided from various sources that the member known as Riding Blonde is a figment of a dubious's souls imagination-if this is the case then should not the said Riding Blonde be removed from our list of members


Lets have more personal info please

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#24 2009-08-30 16:51:04

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

I remember I was upset when a lot of yahoo's shoulder riding groups where deleted and part of mine yahoo group was deleted. Strange enough a lot of messages where from Jockey Jill's that was voided out. I do agree with Jeff that Jill and Liz wrote the same pattern. The truth finally comes out.

Carry On,
Dover

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#25 2009-08-31 11:51:42

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Re: LIZ & ROGER

To be honest I think this has dragged on enough-we have had a good time reading about JJ and RB and the noxious one has had his ego trip- lets call it day and get on with something more meaningful.
At present you cannot stop someone signing on as two different people-so just enjoy the stories as they come-be they fact or fiction-life is too short.


Lets have more personal info please

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