Ultimate shoulder rides

I too think that pictures or videos of children shoulder riding are fine as long as they are kept away from nudity, sex,  and sadomasochism. It appears that some object to children being shown involved in shoulder riding because they can not separate, in their minds, shoulder riding from sex, nudity, or sadomasochism. This is why some wives or girlfriends get jealous if their man shoulder carries another woman or why the men of those other women would object to me shoulder carrying their women.

Yes, most of us did first to enjoy shoulder riding as the rider or the "horse" when we were children. We all are children anyway, just older versions.

Gunde:

Do I understand you correctly that showing pictures or videos of children in this website which also involves sexual and sometimes violent content will invite those who would abuse children such that this website could become associated with those that abuse children?  I now agree with you that we may want to delete all pictures and videos showing children from this website and discourage as well as delete the introduction of children. The power to do this is ultimately with you administrators.  I am slow but I try to see others' points of view and I think you gave more than just a few cents worth.

getmeup wrote:

I wish certain members would not post pictures of children involved in a shoulder ride. Someone has recently posted a  pic where the child looks no older then seven or eight years old. This makes me feel really uncomfortable. Do the administrators find this acceptable? If so then I will no longer post pictures on here and will delete my membership.

The same thing could be said for the Men-on-men shoulder rides.   Just depends on your perspective. 
Acceptability is an opinion that is based on how you interpret the situation.  You seem to interpret the kids shoulder rides as somehow "unacceptable" even though they just involve fun with family members.  I sometimes interpret the men-on-men as somehow "unacceptable" even though most are just friends having fun rather than being sexual in nature.   Both of us are welcome to our opinions, but should not judge others.   
I hope you will stay with us, but an alternative might be to start one of your own yahoo groups.

For me too, pics of children should be banned.

They might put this forum in jeopardy, as already mentioned in other posts, but do you know why ??   IMO, it is just because posting children pics in THIS forum is, per se, a bad action to say the least  !!!   Because there is no such thing as a sex-less, sex-void, shoulder ride ! Sexual content in SR may be very small, or very important, but it is always there !!! And it is forbidden, both by Law and Morality, to deal with sex with under age persons ...  That required age may vary from country to country, but it never never includes children nor even early-teen people !

Showing children pics in such sexual background could make those children the target of sexual fantasies of the worst kind.  Therefore, children pics should be banned from this forum.

Equidum

I agree with you too, Walter.

However, your suggestion would not guarantee the exclusion of sexual deviants against children from this website. In your opinions would this satisfy the wrath of the angry gods such that this website would not have to be thrown into the volcano to satisfy the angry gods?

I believe we are the insects that land on the horse (the god) and say, "Do not worry, Mr. Horse. We are good insects and we will not bite you."  The horse does not know this to be true, does not care to take chances, and the horse lifts up its tail and swats us dead.

Would it be better if we stop debating, have Gunde take action now, and throw pictures and videos of children "to the volcano" (delete them) so the angry gods will be satisfied and allow this website to continue its existence without videos or pictures showing children?

A innocuous picture will not going bad only because it stand side by side to a "bad" picture.

Walter

gunde wrote:

Here´s my five cents on this issue:
Pictures of small children riding on adults should not be posted. Why? What´s wrong with that? Because when this kind of pics are taken away from their natural context, like an album of family pics on i.e. Flickroom, and posted here, they don´t look that "innocent" any more. This site is filled with pics and discussions of sexual nature. If the wrong person would happen to find this forum, pics of young children riding on adults would certainly cause us a lot of problems.

I couldn't have said it better myself.  I was disturbed by these photos of children for the longest time but I thought it best to not say anything.  I don't mean to offend anyone but I really think it's wrong and Gunde summed my feelings up perfectly.  I wish something would be done but I'm just glad to be here.

This IS a topic worth to be thought about well. We have had this discussion before.
I followed it this time for a while with interest before I add my opinion now.
In this community you will find as many special interests as members, no one is exactly the way as someone else.
However it is obvious though that we have two basic views here. One side who thinks shoulder riding, no matter in which way, is just all natural, just pure fun and since fun that no one hurts gets all people involved feel better you could claim sr being healthy.
The other point of view here is that there should be never taken advantage of people who can not defend themselves and certainly not of young children.
Both views though do not need to exclude each other, they don't have to be mutually exclusive. Both groups here strongly believe that their view is strictly the only right one. Maybe we manage to find a way to try and understand other perspectives as well.
For that reason I do think this is a neccessery and healthy debate.

We can sure agree on this:
Nothing should put this great site in danger. No post should violate the rights of children. We are practically all adults here. No one who has sexual feelings involved with little children is welcomed here and we should not tempt anybody to come to this community with such an interest in mind. Shoulder riding per se is not mentally dangerous, unnatural or pervert. But since there is a special form of body contact it is kind of logical that certain feelings can never be ruled out completely. We should be very careful with nudity of pre adults, especially young kids. Everything that could be delicate should be linked instead of posted in here. And as mentioned if there is a post in here that might hurt anyones feelings or appear inappropriate in some way, please contact directly one of the admins. It goes without saying that everyone is definitly free and welcome to express their opinion if they feel not well about anything in this group. No need to hesitate if you feel disturbed, just contact us.
Thank you!

Louie

I'm glad both sides can openly discuss this issue civilly. My great worry is not really for children's welfare since the children aren't being abused or taken advantage of in the photos but that eventually as the internet gets more regulated the authorities get wind of some of these photos of kids and simply shut the site down.  There's no way we can regulate every member and how they use these photos (I think that's important to keep in mind) and what a person does with photos is his own business as long as he keeps in his mind and never hurts anyone but be careful because this slope this site seems to be treading with 7 year old girls and boys in bikinis is a slippery one indeed.

I HAVE TO AGREE WITH VAGELI! YOU PEOPLE ARE PUTTING TOOO MUCH INTO IT! KIDS LIKE TO RIDE ON ONES SHOULDERS, THEY HAVE FUN THIS WAY AND ALSO KIDS LIKE TO FEEL STRONG BY LIFTING THEIR OLDER SISTERS AND MOMS ON THEIR SHOULDERS AND GIVE THEM PIGGY BACK RIDES.... IT IS A RITE OF GROWING UP!!! THANKS FOR MY CHANCE TO VOICE MY OPINION!!!

DICK

vageli wrote:

This is a touchy subject...As what belongs here,and what does not..As for the children....When a child,or very young boy or girl,is shoulder riding on someone else,I do not find anything wrong with this..Or even,if a adult woman is on top of the boy or girl,once again,I do not find anything wrong with this..There is nothing perverted or dirty about it..On this internet world,or world for that matter,there will always be people that are hurtfull,or thinks of the worst..There is no way,we can hide eveything from bad people..They will always get to a point where they will see what they want to see..It's impossible to hide everything from these people..If kids today were shoulderiding all the time,then things would be a lot more better in our society..Would it be better for these kids to deal with crime and drugs and things like this?I don't believe that it would affect any child in any way,if they gave a shoulder ride or got one...Adults having sex with children is wrong..Then the children may grow up in a confused manner..BUT,kids giving piggybacks,or getting them?I don't think this would effect their mental state...

Getmeup,

I hope you read what some of the members wrote about this topic...I agree,children should never be taken advantagebut we are just talking about shoulder rides..It's not torture,or sadistic...I hope you take the time to think things over..You are a very important member here in our community..Thank you all for your time..

Vag

We are children playing a children game.

namaegaaru wrote:

I too think that pictures or videos of children shoulder riding are fine as long as they are kept away from nudity, sex,  and sadomasochism. It appears that some object to children being shown involved in shoulder riding because they can not separate, in their minds, shoulder riding from sex, nudity, or sadomasochism. This is why some wives or girlfriends get jealous if their man shoulder carries another woman or why the men of those other women would object to me shoulder carrying their women.

Yes, most of us did first to enjoy shoulder riding as the rider or the "horse" when we were children. We all are children anyway, just older versions.

¿Esta será una cacería de brujas?

The perversion is only in the pervert´s mind
you are wrong!!!
There are not sex in shoulder rides!!

compulsive gambling is a illness, could we burn casino? No!! There is freedom!!!.

namaegaaru wrote:

Gunde:

Do I understand you correctly that showing pictures or videos of children in this website which also involves sexual and sometimes violent content will invite those who would abuse children such that this website could become associated with those that abuse children?  I now agree with you that we may want to delete all pictures and videos showing children from this website and discourage as well as delete the introduction of children. The power to do this is ultimately with you administrators.  I am slow but I try to see others' points of view and I think you gave more than just a few cents worth.

I am agree
There are not perversion when children play shoulder rides, the perversion is in the pervert or sinner minds.

Bert wrote:

getmeup wrote:

I wish certain members would not post pictures of children involved in a shoulder ride. Someone has recently posted a  pic where the child looks no older then seven or eight years old. This makes me feel really uncomfortable. Do the administrators find this acceptable? If so then I will no longer post pictures on here and will delete my membership.

The same thing could be said for the Men-on-men shoulder rides.   Just depends on your perspective. 
Acceptability is an opinion that is based on how you interpret the situation.  You seem to interpret the kids shoulder rides as somehow "unacceptable" even though they just involve fun with family members.  I sometimes interpret the men-on-men as somehow "unacceptable" even though most are just friends having fun rather than being sexual in nature.   Both of us are welcome to our opinions, but should not judge others.   
I hope you will stay with us, but an alternative might be to start one of your own yahoo groups.

I agree
If someone doesn´t like to see, then doesn´t see
We are not in the middle age!!!

walter_berneburg wrote:

equidum, there are many shoulder rides of kids on their parents or on each others shoulders. I'm sure this kids have not the least sexual thought, and also their parents have certainly not.


Maybe the best would be to close the bonus albums and crate a new album for pictures with nudity and/or visible sexual content. This album would be for bonus members only. In the other albums could be all pics with no visible sexual activities, including pics with children.


Walter

Censured.
If a guy is bother with mom shoulderrides pictures, could he ask for erase mom albums and pics?
Is his right if an administrator erase or delete other pic.
He has the same right.
burn the witches?

gunde wrote:

namaegaaru wrote:

Gunde:

Do I understand you correctly that showing pictures or videos of children in this website which also involves sexual and sometimes violent content will invite those who would abuse children such that this website could become associated with those that abuse children?

Yes. If so would happen, this site would get shut down.

Walter
Your suggestion is noted, but I´m afraid that, that wouldn´t work.

As Nick said, please send an admin a PM if a pic or post bothers you.

I agree with:
no one is exactly the way as someone else
Both views though do not need to exclude each other, they don't have to be mutually exclusive
Maybe we manage to find a way to try and understand other perspectives as well
Nothing should put this great site in danger. No post should violate the rights of children.
No one who has sexual feelings involved with little children is welcomed here and we should not tempt anybody to come to this community with such an interest in mind. Shoulder riding per se is not mentally dangerous, unnatural or pervert.
We should be very careful with nudity of pre adults, especially young kids.
It goes without saying that everyone is definitly free and welcome to express their opinion if they feel not well about anything in this group. No need to hesitate if you feel disturbed, just contact us.

louie_sr wrote:

This IS a topic worth to be thought about well. We have had this discussion before.
I followed it this time for a while with interest before I add my opinion now.
In this community you will find as many special interests as members, no one is exactly the way as someone else.
However it is obvious though that we have two basic views here. One side who thinks shoulder riding, no matter in which way, is just all natural, just pure fun and since fun that no one hurts gets all people involved feel better you could claim sr being healthy.
The other point of view here is that there should be never taken advantage of people who can not defend themselves and certainly not of young children.
Both views though do not need to exclude each other, they don't have to be mutually exclusive. Both groups here strongly believe that their view is strictly the only right one. Maybe we manage to find a way to try and understand other perspectives as well.
For that reason I do think this is a neccessery and healthy debate.

We can sure agree on this:
Nothing should put this great site in danger. No post should violate the rights of children. We are practically all adults here. No one who has sexual feelings involved with little children is welcomed here and we should not tempt anybody to come to this community with such an interest in mind. Shoulder riding per se is not mentally dangerous, unnatural or pervert. But since there is a special form of body contact it is kind of logical that certain feelings can never be ruled out completely. We should be very careful with nudity of pre adults, especially young kids. Everything that could be delicate should be linked instead of posted in here. And as mentioned if there is a post in here that might hurt anyones feelings or appear inappropriate in some way, please contact directly one of the admins. It goes without saying that everyone is definitly free and welcome to express their opinion if they feel not well about anything in this group. No need to hesitate if you feel disturbed, just contact us.
Thank you!

Louie

I agree
This group is not an aduld group
Mostly children play shoulder rides
We play or want to play shoulderrides because we are old children.
There are not sex in shoulder rides.

Bert wrote:

blakjac29 wrote:

I must say that I am in complete agreement with Louie and others who think that photos of children shoulder riding should be banned from this group.  While it is true that shoulder riding in itself is harmless,photos of that nature involving children in an adult group should ne banned.  That is only my opinion.

blakjac29

This site and its predecessors (Scotty's shoulder ride yahoo sites) were not originally adult groups.   
They were based on the "shoulder riding is fun for all" theme.   If we are going to set this group to exclude certain themes then I suggest we go back to the original intent and ban nudity and  sexual themes.   There are plenty of those sites on the internet for ayone who wants to go in that direction.

There are not children abuse in these pics because they were in public areas (swimming pool and beach), there are other kids and adults in these pics and nobody said "no" to the woman on kid shoulders. The child is not in pain, he is smiling

getmeup wrote:

I wish certain members would not post pictures of children involved in a shoulder ride. Someone has recently posted a  pic where the child looks no older then seven or eight years old. This makes me feel really uncomfortable. Do the administrators find this acceptable? If so then I will no longer post pictures on here and will delete my membership.

For me it's enough to see happy faces of boys when they lift mother or older sister or simply older girl... And if somebody can see sex or perversion in this pictures - as say in Russia: "Flag to hands!" (that means "Forwards!")...

Sorry!
Is true, but nobody has the right of blackmail.
We (people who like shoulderriding) are special, we are an elite.
A person told me that shoulderrides is dirty.
Shoulderrides is dirty? No!
Are we perverts? No!
There are not perversion in shoulderrides.
Are there homosexuality in mom or wow shoulderrides? No!
Are there sexuality in wom or mow shoulderrides? No!
Are there sado masochism in  shoulderrides? No!
Is abominable the scene where a father carries a little son or daughter on his shoulders? No!
I condemn the children abuse. Shoulderrides is allowed if there are not children abuse.
What is the problem?

Nick wrote:

caballito wrote:

CENSURED!!
Nobody forces you to see some pictures, is your choose to see or not them.
I am disagree with man on man pictures. Could any administrator erase these mom pics for me? No!!!!!!!
There is freedom.

Caballito,

Please show some respect and kindness towards other members, even if they do not agree with your opinions. It is quite clear that not everyone thinks like you do.

Is true
Many people can´t understand us, they could think that we are crazy, mad, insane. But, we are more normal than them because we speech our dreams, fantasies, experiences, feelings, etc. We agree with ourselves, they don´t.
Who are homophobics? They are homosexuals who are afraid of show their hidden gay side. Open homosexuals are happy while homophobics are angry; because those are agree with themselves while these don´t.
In the middle age men were afraid of beauty and nice women, those called these: Witches. Why men burned beauty and nice women? Because they were afraid of Witches, fall in love and be in love.
This is ignorance.
Nowadays there are cavemen who want to delete our group because they are afraid of us.
For our group, we must defend it.
caballito

p.d. namaegaaru, my email is videos_horsie@yahoo.com, gracias señor. 

namaegaaru wrote:

I think you are correct that shoulder riding is not evil. I also agree with some who say that the crazies in control of this world may shut down this website if children are shown in videos or pictures of shoulder riding. The administrators claim to have been shut down by yahoo and smart groups before such that they me base this fear of  theirs on experience. They on the other hand have the option of deleting what they want. You can see how much they have deleted. Get angry and make speeches if you think it will make a difference. If you wish to email me directly, Caballito, I will explain it better en espanol, senor.

Te apoyo al 100%
Soy de Latinoamérica, en esa zona son muy reprimidos y prácticamente no encontré a nadie con quien compartir mi pasión por el juego del caballito, ya sea sobre los hombros o sobre la espalda (conmigo sobre mis manos y rodillas o en posición que en USA llaman piggyback o apoyándome con bastoncitos pues nuestras piernas son más largas que nuestros brazos).
En grupos como éste y otros donde el tema es el caballito me siento contento pues sé que no estoy solo, que no soy un extraño, ni perverso, ni un enfermo.
Que alguien que no pertenezca al grupo me llame loco, lo acepto pues es un ignorante y no me conoce, pero que alguien de los nuestros censure ciertas fotos ... es algo que duele.
caballito
p.d. Mi email es videos_horsie@yahoo.com, me encantaría cruzar correos electrónicos contigo.

patocometa wrote:

tratar de censurar imagenes donde aparecen niños en paseo de hombros, me parece que es ofensivo para aquellos que crearon esta comunidad.

El acto de un niño en paseo en hombros no es nada malo, tampoco ofensivo ver a una mujer joven o adulta sobre los hombros de un niño. Estos actos son habituales en la vida diaria.

Aquellos que no les gustan estos actos, no tienen el derecho absoluto de prohibir dichas imágenes.

Ya no estamos en la Edad Media, esto no es la Inquisición, tampoco el ku klux klan.

que se temine esta discusión de una buena vez.

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