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Missbaron;
Have you played chicken fight in a pool while riding on your ex shoulders? This is a great opportunity for the woman to playfully push the man's face underwater and weaken him until he can'r resist or throw her off him
m2ichaela:
Obviously I didn't drown him to death, though I often really considered it in my fantasies. He was never sure I wouldn't , so he did manage to dislodge me several times when I kept him under beyond his ability to hold his breath.
There were often people around in hotel pools so of course I made it look like it was just play even while I was literally sitting on his head to hold him under.
However, among my friends my actions were encouraged sometimes and they knew I had control of him. One of my wealthier friends had his own private pool that was sculpted with shallow places at one end. while in the pool with my ex and three other people I climbed on his shoulder and had him carry me to the shallow end where I use my weight to push him forward so he fell face down. I managed to stay on top of him, sitting on his back while he was in only about one and a half feet under water. My friends were semi-seriously shout things like "finish him this time" and "Sit on him and don't let him up for air!!" . While I sat on him that way, he held his breath until he passed out and I grabbed his hair and lifted his head above the water as soon as I saw bubbles come up from his face. He was still unconscious when we dragged him from the pool and one of the men was nice enough to sit on his back to squash the water out of his lungs.
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Missbaron,
Almost drowning is a very frightening experience. I wonder why your ex didn't try to throw you off him when you sat on his head in a pool. I also wonder why he agreed to continue with such dangerous games, knowing that you have no mercy for him.
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m2ichaela:
I couldn't really drown him even if I wanted to. My ex was more than strong enough to throw me off if he was really in danger. But as I became more annoyed with him , the more frequently I allowed myself to think about drowning or smothering him etc. entered my mind. Don't misunderstand, I never really intended to kill or really harm him. It was just a way of amusing myself and drowning him in the pool was an easy fantasy option since I was already sitting on him.
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Missbaron;
Did you consider put some restraints on your ex to prevent him from throw you off him?
For example - tying a rope around his neck and your thigh, or tying his wrists to your ankles while you're sitting on his shoulders.
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m2ichaela:
No, I didn't consider restraining him in the pool or a lake . I did tie him at home sometimes because sometimes I just didn't want his big hands touching me when I was sitting on him.
As I said, actually drowning him was never a serious consideration but it became more frequent in my fantasies as I became more annoyed with having him around all the time. This became only a little more amusing a fantasy when some of my friends watching from poolside laughingly shouted things like "Sit on him and don't let him up for air!". I knew they were joking except for a few who really disliked him and even they didn't expect me to really drown him. Still they often laughed when I let him up coughing water and trying to catch his breath.
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Missbaron;
I once saw a movie scene in which a woman cuffed man's wrist to the pool ladder. He was deliberately cuffed too low and eventually drowned to death.
But if you cuff both his wrists high enough - you or any other woman can step on his head or hands while climbing into or out of the pool,
sit on his head to drown him, or do anything you wish.
What do you think? Did you consider doing that to your ex?
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m2ichaela;
when i was getting near the end of my marriage I imagined killing my ex in quite a few ways but it was of course just fantasy.
I had him tied up in a pre-nuptial which included all of his property and half of his income, which at the time was quite substantial. It was iron clad and remains so to this day.
so while I would have enjoyed sitting on his head in a pool or watching someone else sit on it and drown him I never considered actually ending his life in reality.
But beside the potential penalties for murder , I managed to enjoy tormenting him for several years by taking him money and property and since the amount he was required to pay me for support was a fixed amount based on his income at the time of the divorce, he was nearly completely homeless when he lost his job and had to take a deep cut in his salary in the job he had next.
My ex doesn't have to deal with me pushing his head under water while I sit on his shoulders anymore, but I still have my foot on his neck and I'm very unforgiving in regard to his required support payments and while I rarely see him over the past 2 years, I'm still metaphorically sitting on his back financially while he lives in a tiny studio apartment and can hardly afford food let alone dating other women.
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Missbaron;
I'm interesting the lats part of your marriage:
Obviously you didn't want to kill your ex, but did you threaten to do so
and thus forced him to obey you against his will?
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m2ichaela:
I wouldn't say that I "threatened" him but implied that I would and could end him.
My ex was (and in some ways still is) obsessed with me and submitted to thing like bondage which of course took away his strength advantage.
for an example, he would wake up some mornings and find me on his chest and restrained to the bed posts ,usually just sitting there while I talked to him about how helpless he was and how I could suffocate him if I decided to replace him with one of my lovers.
I never threatened him with a weapon except a pillow that I pressed down on his face lightly for a few seconds. I think you can image the scene.
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Missbaron;
While sitting on your ex chest as he was tied to the bed posts, he was helpless and passive.
Did you make him do things against his will under your threat when he was not passive,
like forcing him to carry you or lift you?
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m2ichaela:
I made my ex lift and carry me whenever I felt like it.
He wasn't completely trained when I married him but as I was getting ready to divorce him, I have fun tormenting him and he always submitted because he knew I would get everything in the divorce because the pre-nup was literally iron clad.
My two male cousins were my lawyers and they loved taking him to court when he challenged any part of the pre-nup and he even had to pay them when he tried.
Since they hated him and they were my cousins, they worked for me free of charge.
In a manner of speaking, my exe's choice was to have me on his back or my two fat lawyers
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I know that on some level my ex knew I wouldn't kill him, but he could never be completely certain and it was fun just sitting on his chest with him tied down and helpless and not really sure if I would really hurt him.
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Missbaron:
Can you recall another occasion in which you forced your ex to carry you until exhaustion (except the hiking story)?
I'm curious why he agreed to carry you after the hiking event, which ended badly for him.
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m2ichaela:
I could usually coarse or shame him into carrying me just by challenging his strength.
His male vanity could make him comply to anything I demanded even when he knew what I was doing . you might think he was stupid but it really wasn't the case. He was obsessed with me and I know that in spite of what appeared to be a male dominated home , his mother had indoctrinated him to submitting to women and feminine authority.
But the most fun I had was after the divorce when he was unemployed and had been evicted from his tiny studio apartment.
I allowed him to move back into my home and sleep on a tiny cot in my basement laundry room.
I loved flaunting my lovers in his face and even related false stories of things I did to my lovers that I never did for him. They were almost all lies since I dominated my lovers who were mostly submissive men. But it killed him to think I was submitting to them and performing these sexual acts.
Needless to say, he submitted to my demands just to keep a roof over his head while he tried to find work and performed repairs and housework for me.
During that time I asked hm almost sweetly to carry me on his shoulders or let me sit on his back when he was in the right position and he complied with some irritation because he didn't want to risk putting me in a bad mood.
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Missbaron:
You mentioned that you liked to sit on your ex chest
and slap his face. Did you pin his arms under your legs? Did he try to push you off him?
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m2ichaela:
Sometimes I pinned his arms under my legs but I preferred to tie his arms behind his back or to the legs of my sofa.
I couldn't really keep his arms pinned with my legs and sometimes he would struggle when I slapped him so often that he didn't care that I would withhold sex if he fought back.
That was in the early days before I had him mostly trained and cowed.
My ex really is very strong but hated it when I tormented him with face slaps and he hated having me sitting on his chest. He often complained of pain when I sat on his chest to long but I loved sitting on his big chest and I would remind him that hurting him was the idea:).
I have pinned other guys like that who really couldn't get me off them, but none of them were very strong.
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Missbaron:
You mentioned that Amanda's husband left her after refusing to be trained.
Did she trick him into carrying her like you did to your ex husband?
Was he strong enough to fight back against her weight?
It's interesting to compare the dynamic between Amanda and her ex vs. yours and your ex.
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m2ichaela:
Amanda was demanding and self centered. She once mentioned attacking him for some slight and sitting on his chest while punching him.
I don't know if she ever got to the point of riding him against his will other than playfully as dating or married couples sometimes engage in. She wasn't nearly as heavy as she is now before the divorce but she was really trying to train him into a docile and obedient husband.
Amanda's husband was just an average guy and not nearly as strong as my ex. If she sat on him now, whether on his back or chest, I don't think he could bear her current weight.
I honestly don't know if Amanda could physically beat up her husband when they were still married but she is quite confrontational with just about every man she has to deal with.
One of the reasons I chose her in the fantasy scenario is that a short time ago she had an verbal altercation with a man and she was very angry afterward. I was remember Amanda saying to me "I just wanted to sit on him and pound on his face".
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MissBaron:
I'm curious why Amanda failed to train her husband before he left her, while you trained successfully your ex. Probably your ex was much more obsessed with you than Amanda's ex.
Amanda should have trained her ex by sitting on his lap/chest in any occasion, and refuse to stand until he had to push her with his strength. In addition, she could sit on one of his shoulders or the back of his head, to show him that his face should be near/under her ass.
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m2ichaela:
I can only speak with any authority on my own success in training my ex and not Amanda's failure.
One thing that worked for me was that I started training my ex while we were still dating and I worked on his ego and vanity. I broke him down a piece at a time, finding chinks in his armor and working on things that I notice his mother had already instilled. As I said, he was as much addicted to me as he ever was in love with me.
Amanda started working on her husband after they were married , dominating and dismissing him a little more every day and unlike me, she allowed him to actually catch her with other men. I had made it clear to my ex that fidelity on my part was not in my nature but Amanda's marriage and the "vows" were traditional, while she really wanted the freedom that I had.
But rather than fight her, Amanda's husband started stepping out with other women himself.
Ultimately things turned physical when her ex caught her with another man in their home and Amanda and her boyfriend beat up her husband and humiliated him as well.
Amanda's husband got a large percentage of their assets in the divorce and humiliated her in the eyes of her family.
From that point on she started to hate men and mistreated the few men she did date until those guys rejected her and she hated men even more.
You might be right. If she had sat on his head and put him in his place from the start, she might have achieved her goal , assuming that was her goal to start with.
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MissBaron:
Yes, sitting on man's head is a good method to train him into submission. Unlike facessitting, which is considered sexual act and may be pleasurable for the man, sitting on his head cause him only pain and discomfort. If you lift up your legs and put all your weight on the back or side of his head, it becomes hard for him to push you away (depending on your weight and his strength).
Did you or Amanda ever sit on your ex's head in public? How did they react?
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m2ichaela:
No, not in public and we didn't sit on my ex's head .
On the day I told my ex that I was divorcing him and evicting him from my house (I owned the house before we were married),I had three men and a Amanda there for support and to insure my safety.
My ex grabbed me by my shoulders and shook me for less than a second when Amanda and two of the men attacked my ex and got him on the floor. One of the men sat on his right arm and another sat on his legs while Amanda knelt on his left arm. Amanda wasn't quite as big as she is now and my ex threw her over his body and almost got away.
The third man was my friend Wayne who jumped onto my Ex's torso and helped get his left arm pinned down where she sat on it while Wayne put his knees on my ex's shoulders while straddling and firmly sitting on his chest.
My ex hated Wayne already and that sentiment was mutual. Wayne just sat there slapping my ex's face with stinging slaps while smiling down and enjoying inflicting that indignity.
I let Wayne slap him for a short time , then asked him to stop but to sit right where he was while I walked around , standing just inches from my ex's head and smiled at his predicament before tell him that I would call the police and have him arrested if he didn't leave quietly when my friends got off him.
My ex was much stronger than Wayne and I knew that Wayne would be his first target if he got violent again , but I rather enjoyed looking at him down there with four people sitting on him so I asked them to keep him down at least until he calmed down. After about five minutes he was just laying there looking defeated but calm and I asked my friends to let him up so he could leave.
In retrospect , I guess I missed the opportunity to have Amanda sit on his head or at least sit on it myself and maybe I should have. But I didn't want to delay getting rid of him any longer or doing something to enrage him to the point that he became violent again.
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MissBaron:
As you stood next to your ex's head, did you consider stepping on his face to punish him?
Have you ever used your feet on his head/face to dominate and humiliate your ex?
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m2ichaela:
No I didn't step on my ex husbands face but I did stand close enough to him that he had to look up my skirt . It's not that he hadn't seem me far more intimately since we were married after all.
But I enjoyed towering over him like that as if he were an insect .
He was helpless down there with 4 people sitting on him at that point and his head was about 2 feet from the sofa and I sat on the arm of the sofa and I think I remember nudging his head with the toe of my shoe as I told him I would call the police if he misbehaved and that my friends would be witnesses.
My friends were all amused sitting on him like they were because he was normally intimidating, especially Wayne sitting on his chest smirking down at my ex's face like a schoolyard bully perched on a beaten victim.
I really wish I had taken a photo of all that.
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