Ultimate shoulder rides

MissBaron;

Those spurs sound like they are nice; especially if they cost several hundred dollars!

I don’t think spurring a human carrier/human horse is bad. In fact, I think it could help the rider in many ways.
I have not bought into the whole, “human skin isn’t as thick as a horse’s skin” debate. I actually think they are pretty much the same, but the animal has fur and hides the skin to a degree. I say this because people have no problem with spurring a horse, mule or donkey and it does cut them if used repeatedly. The same would be with a human horse. If a rider is willing to use their spurs on an animal why wouldn’t they be willing to use on their human horse??
If a horse can feel a fly land on them, their skin isn’t that thick.

I think you should use spurs on your human mounts. Reasoning being it can help motivate him, make him snap out of a mood he might be in, to correct any unwanted behavior and simply to aid in guiding him where you want him to go.

I told you that when a lady was sitting on my back for a period of time talking to someone on the phone, she must have felt my back sag some and pressed her spurs into my sides and it made me raise my back up without evening thinking about it. She did it again later on one more time. She sat on me as I stood still for a solid 20 minutes on the phone. I moved around naturally to give my arms and legs a break and she pull on my reins when I moved to much. Not sure if me moving annoyed her or not?

For what reasons would you spur a horse or donkey? Would you feel bad?

For what reasons would you spur a human horse and would you feel bad?

MissBaron;

If the human carrier was someone you didn’t know, how would you be as his rider with your spurs? Would you care if after your ride you noticed some marks on his thighs or sides from your spurs? Why?

Exact same question as above, but does your use of spurs change if you know your carrier or have a handyman type relationship with said carrier?

lol. She does sound a lot like you! Heck, I was trying to adjust my arms and legs (I was on all fours) and I think I moved around to much causing her to pull back on the reins and press her spurs into my thighs. I remember thinking, “geez, I’m just trying to get myself comfortable as she sits on my back talking on the phone like I’m not even here! After the 20 minutes phone conversation, she took me for laps around her huge living room and rode like she just mounted and hadn’t been sitting on me for 20 plus minutes. It was a workout.

MissBaron;

When you used your sharp heels on the donkey that you had ridden on the island, and kicked him “hundreds” of times, had your heels been spurs, would that have changed how much your kicked him? Would you have felt bad for spurring him that many times? Why?

Do you ever use a rope or something similar to put in handyman’s mouth and use to guide and stop him so you don’t have to say anything to him if you don’t want too? (Letting the rope be his guide.)

When you said you posed in the a full length mirror astride handyman’s back, did he look at the mirror to see what you looked like? Did you allow him too? What exactly did you wear on that particular day? How did you accidentally spur him that day with your sharp spurs that he bought you?

As a rider, is there a difference between you spurring a horse, donkey versus you spurring a human horse?

Yes, I can see how my sagging back might come across to you or her as a rider, but she didn’t even allow me to move around much to give my arms and legs a break. It made me kinda rebellious and that’s when she pulled harder on the reins and pressed her spurs into my thighs with a little more force. I wonder if she knew I didn’t like her pulling the reins when I was trying to give myself a bit of a break or to get more comfortable? She sure didn’t seem to miss a beat with her phone call though.

MissBaron;

I totally understand why you would feel that way if he tried biting your leg! Ouch if he would have connected.

When you kicked him with your sharp heels, what is your mindset where you can answer so confidently that it did not bother you to kick him as hard as you did and hundreds of times not remotely caring if the heels stung or hurt with some of the kicks?

Dog leash is a good idea. He does he respond to your tugs to the left/right or your tug to have him stop?

When you are posing on him, do you use the reins (dog leash) to turn him this way or that way and do you use the reins to put him in position to view you in the mirror? Do he talk when he sees you or do you want him to be quiet? Does he make obvious facial expressions like “wow! She’s sexy!” When viewing you from his position under your weight? 

Do you notice him looking in the mirror at you when riding him around the room? Do you make faces back at him or spur him when he’s looking watching? (Might be interesting to see how he reacted when you spurred him in the mirror.)

JayRey8585:

the island wasn't  very big ,perhaps 5 miles around but it had a lot of small shops  that i visited or just rode past so I was probably on the little beast's back for about 15 miles or so (ON and Off) and probably  5 miles or so  in the longest stretch .

I chose him without  any objection from the  guy handling the rental, but  when I returned I learned that that  donkey usually carried  children , so perhaps my weight was a problem for him since he tried to bite me as soon as  I sat on him. Thinking back now, I  would like to think I was a  burden and that I kicked him to hard because every time I got off him to explore a  shop,  it was a struggle just to get on his back again.

Yes he had a  bit and  reins  but just a course blanket  that was uncomfortable to sit on, dressed as i was, so I folded it onto his  haunches  and sat  directly on his bare back. Even his hair was a little  course but  it was better than the blanket.

You can call me mean  if you like  but I didn't feel  bad about  punishing that donkey at all.

JayRey8585:

I let handyman look at our reflection as much as he wants  as long as he also looks where he's carrying me. I'll  use the  leash  if it looks like he might  bump into  something but most of the time I just sit on his back and pose, either astride or side saddle while he crawls until he's   seriously tired out.

Several times  during those rides he tried to extend  the posing time  by lowering into a  kowtow  position  without permission.  It's Ok if he asks but when he  does that without permission  I  sit on him and refuse to let him change positions.  It's not  really comfortable sitting on him that way, especially sideways because his back bones poke out under me.      That's when I  talk to him  and sometimes  slap his head or  bounce on his back to remind him of his place. I've sat on him like that for over 20  minutes  and I know it's hard on him to stay in that position because I noticed tears  in his eyes  

Wearing those dangerous spurs excites him when I'm posing on him but as I said they are for show and I  never really spur him  with them. To be honest I have  wanted to but  I don't want  his blood on my carpet.

JayRey8585:

In my perfect world (more like a  fantasy really)  men would be required by law to serve women and anyone a woman designates in any manner any woman sees fit  or pleasurable.

Yes, a man might be required to carry a woman in any way she might  prefer even if she is  to heavy for him to carry,  unattractive or to old to be interesting to him.  Refusal to obey would result in punishment .

In this "perfect world" seeing men serve  any beast of burden  or being objectified would seem  normal to  everyone who might  notice.

I think from that you get the picture , regardless of how impractical  such an arrayment might be.

JayRey8585:

As I said, my "perfect world"  is a fantasy  because  women need men for many things  other than  something to ride or  sit on.  I want and expect   protection from capable men as well as many things  men provide .

Finding submissive men  now is easy enough for most  moderately attractive women and shaping a  submissive man into  whatever I choose   has been easy for me.

As you know , I didn't know handyman had a fetish about having women sit on his back until  I sat on him as  a little joke that day.

But as for the  fantasy world  and punishing   men who failed to comply, I really don't think about torturing  men very often so really  whipping and things like that are not part of my fantasies or desires.

Getting  Julia and Wayne to sit on handyman  and ride  him  wouldn't be hard because  both of them enjoyed  it and I enjoyed watching!

JayRey8585:

That's an amusing aspect of the fantasy,  but I suppose  I would  choose  the strongest looking men to carry me and the  weaker looking guys  as stationary  "furniture" .

this could of course change in some cases, if for example  someone like  Julia were my guest  at  dinner  because  she might  want a  strong back  to sit on to feel secure  and  not have to think about  her human seat while enjoying  her dinner.

It may sound cruel, but I like the  idea of  trying to ride on  an old man  who struggles to bear my  weight on his back.   

A 20 year old?   they  are often not fully developed  at 20  so perhaps breaking  him in until he's stronger  by having him carry me, then  Wayne  or some one of Wayne's weight and working him up to Julia  as furniture  etc. until he can  carry  anyone I know who's sitting on him.

JayRey8585:

I just think that the weaker guys wouldn't be able to carry me or my friends as long as the stronger ones' . The weaker  guys  might  serve  better in a stationary position with someone sitting on their back.

I'm not  very heavy , But I often wonder what it's like  for  someone like  Julia ,riding or  just sitting on someone who is  likely to have difficulty  bearing her weight.
So if I was sitting on a  70+ year old  man,  not only really burdening him but always aware
that he  could fall under me, it would be different than being on a stronger  guy.

I don't really care about being pulled on a platform of any kind regardless of who might be put to use pulling it.  I used to enjoy teasing  old  men at the mall when I was a little younger, but there have been  several  "senior"  men in my past that  I really  hated  and  I can imagine having  some  70+ guy  serve as a proxy for those  men.

JayRey8585:

As long as we are still on fantasy and my  human carriers are basically  slaves, keeping them in shape wouldn't be difficult.
I imagine making them carry people heavier than I am for a longer period than I would  would  be enough.

In my  real private life social circles I can easily find women and several men who  have said they  find the idea of sitting on and riding a man interesting and  intriguing , at least in the hypothetical case.
Wayne would be an obvious choice of course  as would  Julia since she finds the  idea of squashing a man that way  so amusing.

As for deliberately bouncing hard on a carrier's back,  I wouldn't object  if , for example a guest did so because  her/his human seat  sagged or moved around to much for the  guest's comfort.
But I would rather force the slave to endure the weight of each guest while maintaining their position until it was beyond his endurance.
With Wayne and  Julia as guests , I know  that Julia's seat would likely  suffer a lot.  But Wayne's butt is rather well padded for a man and even bouncing  wouldn't be to difficult on  the man under him.

JayRey8585:

I couldn't say for certain that  Julia might get up  before your back gave out but it's possible I suppose. Julia likes to sit side saddle on a stationary  man (from what I noticed when she was on  Handyman's back) and her hips are wide  and would likely cover your back from  your neck to your lower back.  I guess your endurance  would depend on your arms strength since half of her weight would be held up by your arms.

Remember that in real life  Julia has a  love/hate  view of men in general and she might very well slap  you if you begin to sag under her and  she also might  wiggle and shift her weight to  make  it harder  for you to bear her weight.

I think  Wayne would  probably enjoy sitting on you and riding you even more if he knows  you don't like him or  resent him.  He  likes  dominating straight men.  He would probably put on his  effeminate act while sitting on you just to taunt you more  and  ignore your discomfort  as his weight becomes harder for you to bear.

JayRey8585:

In my fantasy scenario, Julia, Wayne and I would enjoy  your resistance  to being used as a seat  or a beast of burden.  But at your size I really don't know if the three of us  could restrain you if you  objected.

Wayne's  submissives are all gay men who will obey him regardless of what their desires are but I know Wayne has some tricks he uses when a submissive  guy resists him physically.  I watched Wayne  get a guy nearly your size down on the floor ,sit on the  guy's chest and torment him with face slapping etc. for at least  ten minutes while I watched.
The guy  Wayne was sitting on  wasn't in  good shape but  was  six feet tall and at least two hundred pounds.

Julia usually dates men much smaller than you are  but she does dominate  them , even  guys who are not submissive at all. I still smile when I remember her  beating up  her  abusive ex husband the day she fought back.  If she was already sitting on you when you objected to her treatment of you, I think you might be at a disadvantage, but of course I have no way of knowing   since this is  just   a fantasy.

JayRey8585:

I can imagine actually "owning"  a man as  a slave, though I don't know how  this  could come about in the real world. Even handyman really has a choice and  his fetish made him obey when I  had Wayne and  Julia  sit on him.

But if it were possible to "own you" I might go  much further  in disciplining you if you  didn't obey me and my friends until you found that  disobedience  was really not worth the pain that would result.
I would of course allow and encourage, Wayne, Julia  and anyone else I allowed to use you to do the same.

If Julia was sitting on your back and having  fun  by trying to make you fail, I think she could  manage to stay on top. When she was trying to make Handyman carry her on all fours she scooted forward  onto his upper back until she was sitting almost fully on his neck.  All of  Julia's weight  was being help up by his arms so of course he fell under her.
But of course I would help either Julia or Wayne  stay on top of you by sitting on you with them and adding my weight.
I know that Wayne wouldn't have any qualms about using   spurs on you to make you obey, not even the roller spurs and he does have some tricks  that he taught me that  could keep you  down even if you're stronger than he is.

JayRey8585:

Well, I think I might really  use those roller spurs if you were seriously disobedient  and dig them into you enough to cause you  pain. I often imagined this when I was sitting on handyman  and  since I would own you, you wouldn't have a  choice and I wouldn't care if I left  scares on your body. 

Of course if I was riding you at the time I would have a bit in your mouth of some kind and if it was early enough in your training, i might have one of those shock dog collars around your neck.

Wayne has several trick that I watched him use on bigger men but the one he taught me was pressing his knuckles into  where your jaw hinges . For  reasons I don't understand it  makes a person's  muscles become flaccid  and  you don't have the strength to dislodge the person sitting on top of you.
Wayne used this trick while sitting on that bigger guy I told you about and the guy moved very slow  and couldn't even get his feet in position to buck Wayne off  his chest.  The  guy under  Wayne remained weak for several minutes when Wayne stopped the  pressure allowing Wayne to  just sit on his  chest and slap his face.
I know this works because I sat on one of my  boyfriends the same way  and challenged him to push me off and he couldn't  for several minutes, though he did push me off before I could  do it to him again because I'm not as strong as Wayne.

JayRey8585:

it probably is  the same  trick  they use in hospitals and ambulances.  I once saw a paramedic on an ambulance  doing something   to a guy who was out of control  but I couldn't see around him  to see exactly what he was doing.

Wayne's submissive  usually do whatever Wayne wants  and that would  of course include letting Wayne sit on their backs and riding them. That bigger  guy  I mentioned  before  was an exception and Wayne  really wanted to sit on the guy's chest to torment  him, I watched him  do the same with  submissive gay men  who didn't resist.

The rowels on those silver spurs  would also certainly cut   your flesh though. I accidently cut handyman  when I was posing on his back and I hardly touched him with one of them.
If you were a real life slave and my property   and I used those spurs while riding you,
I know they would hurt you.  The  amusing thing  here is that since I'm using you in a fantasy , I can be as  cruel as I  like  since  I don't know you in real life and you're  just an idea.

As for riding crops, I use them on real horse and handyman  but only hard enough  to sting. Whipping  and leaving welts  just doesn't appeal to me very much.

But  letting  Wayne ride  or just sit on you or letting Julia  squash  you is more fun if you don't like having them on you. It's very much like  the fun I would have riding you until you drop from exhaustion like I do with handyman. It would be  delicious to  watch and hear you beg for release  and Julia isn't the only plus size friend I have .

As for  my  riding style,  I love sitting  with my legs over  a guy's shoulders and sitting on his upper back so my weight is  more on his arms and also riding sidesaddle so he is like a moving bench.  I love feeling a man's muscles and bones moving under my ass as he crawls, serving me while I enjoy his straining and discomfort, like I'm a  queen.

JayRey8585:

If I chose to ride you with a bit in your mouth and you resisted, I would probably get help from  my friends to get you down and sit on you while I  forced the bit in place. You would be a slave in this fantasy  , so I could treat you any way I felt like treating you.

As for  turning you or making you back up  etc., I would simply use  the same movement of the reins I would use on a  real horse. A sharp tug to the right to turn   right or left and pulling the bit deeper in your mouth to make you back up (away from the bit) to back up.

There is always some slack on the reins   until I need to  make you obey a direction I want you to go and then a  kick with the spurs  to make you move in  the direction I chose.

As long as I'm sitting on you , you wouldn't get  very many verbal commands and the reins, the spurs and  perhaps a slap on your flanks from the riding crop would be all  I would need  once I have you trained.

Rolantecamina:

Your question is a bit complicated but i will reply to  some of it at least.

In regard to my tour and the idea of hiring a local peasant  to carry me on his shoulders, I wasn't the first in our touring group to mention the possibility. It was in fact a rather over weight middle aged man who talked about  hiring a poor local to carry him on  his shoulders because he was seriously tired from walking.

I seriously considered this possibility because I chose the wrong clothing and especially my shoes because they were very expensive. the man who first mentioned hiring  one of the peasants disappeared from the group, so i don't know if he  hired one or not.
But since I weighed half of what he did, I thought the peasant I might hire would be  more fortunate than the one he might have  hired.   My shoes cost more than the local peons would earn in a month and  were getting trashed beyond repair and I wouldn't have cared  what  the locals might think  if they saw me sitting on a the peon's shoulders even though I was wearing a skirt at the time.  I would expect the one I hired to perform as a beast of burden and nothing more or less.

Now as for your fantasy, when I'm in a cruel  mood, I like the idea of  being carried by a much older man. (I have a personal reason for this) and I like to imagine  some old and weak  man struggling   to carry me while I sat on his shoulders.  If I allowed him to rest I would  probably have  remained sitting on him just for fun  and because the  street and walkways were filthy  and I wouldn't have any place else to was clean enough to sit on.

If I had to ride on a  boy that  weighed less than I do, It would be the same  and  the boy  would at least learn his place is to serve women and those who are wealthy enough to hire someone like him to serve us.

As I said above, I wouldn't have any problem with sitting on  either the old man or a younger one during rest periods, though I probably wouldn't risk sitting on their hands like I did my bodybuilder  ex husband. If they dropped me I would likely  just land on them  but I might be injured.  I would probably just sit on the peon  in whatever position he  decided to be in while resting. If he was just sitting down I would sit on his back or   sit on his chest or stomach if he was reclined.

Rolantecamina:

You certainly ask a marathon of questions But I'll try to reply to some of them.

I'm a business woman and I expect anyone I pay to perform exactly I I instruct them.
If I was riding on the shoulders of the old man I would require him to bear up under me
and  perform as I order him to.
this would of course include making me as comfortable as  possible  and if he gave out under me I would expect him to attempt to lower himself  as much as possible so that I  land sitting on his back without a  sudden  jolt.

As for the possibility of having a cold drink while using the younger boy as a bench, it would depend on his service in regard to letting him have some of my drink. I'm certainly not going stand, waiting for him to purchase a drink for himself  since I expect him to serve me the entire  time I hired him for.

Since most men find my ample posterior  attractive, I wouldn't  really  be upset  that the boy or man holding me up while I sat over him on his hands to  enjoy the feel or the view. However I would at least punish him for such impertinence when his arms gave out by bouncing when I was  sitting on his chest.  Whether it was the old man or the boy, he would have to endure my weight on his chest   and if he had difficulty breathing  it would be his problem and not mine.

As for  me being compassionate, I might show some compassion  to some degree, but I expect my moneys' worth in all things  and  the  man or boy  accepted the employment  willingly and owe me full srvice.

MissBaron;

I think I might have met my match. I don’t think you would put up with my attitude (if I got one) and you aren’t scared to make me work under your weight.

If when you pulled harder to make me back up or giving me a strong tug of the reins to stop me, what would you do if I moved my head around to try and take the pressure or sting of the bit off my mouth?

What would you do if I made a grunt noise when you spurred me? Or if your spurs caught me off guard and I jumped a bit making my back bounce you?

If using a saddle was an option to use to take me on a ride, would you use it?
If one saddle weighed 25 pounds and another saddle weighed 35 pounds, but was more comfortable for your butt, would the 10 pound difference between the two matter? I’m assuming having stirrups would be a plus for you too?

Rolantecamina:

In this fantasy as in  my reality I couldn't care less about your reputation if  I was sitting on your chest as you described.  I wouldn't be embarrassed  to be seen in that position since I would  be seen as in the superior position  who you  were the one being sat upon as a humble  slave or just a convenient object to be used.  Those  jogger  might  see me at  cute  or even sexy as was the case when I sometimes sat on my ex husband at the beach.  It's possible that they might stop and chat  or even joke with me . 

Since you put yourself in the  position, I might point out to  the joggers that you specifically   requested  that I  sit on you and I was quite comfortable .
I wouldn't allow you to talk and I might even  joke about sitting on your face  to keep you quite sine "My chair  shouldn't be speaking".

The worse those joggers might think is that I was a  bit eccentric   though some might see my position as enviable, especially if some were women who might enjoy  'putting a man in his proper place" .   

As for you suggesting that I sit on your face?  As you might  guess  from reading  some of my previous  postings, I'm quite comfortable  doing that with my lovers , many of whom enjoy serving me , so I wouldn't have a  problem with your suggestion.
However that doesn't mean I would do what you asked since we had just met and  I don't engage in intimacy that early.

MissBaron;

Did you happen to see my message above from a few days ago? It has been lost in the mess, lol!

Rolantecamina:

Well to start with, my ex simply let me tie or  handcuff him because he wanted  sex  which of course I denied him if he didn't obey.
He was more obsessed with me than what many would view as in love etc.
If I divorced him, the  prenup he signed   would leave him completely penniless (which it  did  when I divorced him) as well as requiring him to pay me support.

At our wedding, only his parents and brother were invited and I already knew that the seeds of submission were already planted in him by his mother who seemed  demure on the surface  but she had both of her sons and her husband  completely under her thumb.

At the reception, at the encouragement of my friends, I had my ex husband get down on his hands and  knees  and I sat on his back with my  gown completely covering him while had my  garter removed by the  best man. I noticed  his mother's approving smile when this was happening, which confirmed what I already knew about the family dynamics

All that  "goes through my mind" when I sat down on his face (or anyone's face for that matter) is the sensations I receive from his tongue and his features.   The man's tongue goes  to whatever area I want (if you get my meaning).
I'm fanatically clean  and fresh  down there so most men don't find it unpleasant  until  I just refuse to  let them breathe. My ex could almost lift me off his face with his neck sometimes  but I usually remained seated, sometimes by just  holding onto his hair.

I would occasionally give my ex a hand-job if he served me well enough  but if he  didn't, I would  sometimes  sit on his chest while I called one of my lovers to come over and take his place.  Actually, my lovers were often used exactly the same way,  but I always told my  husband that I serviced my lovers and submitted to  them in the bedroom.

JayRey8585:

While on a real horse  you pull the reins  back with steady pressure to make the horse back away from the  bit in his mouth to make him back up. You don't "tug".
You wouldn't turn your head because doing so would increase the pain.
After a few experiences, you would respond just as a real horse would and simply back up naturally.

If you became noisy  when I spurred you or bounced me to the point that I felt insecure sitting on you, I would probably reseat myself , bouncing  hard  to signal that you displeased me. I would do this rather than giving a verbal chastisement  or spurring you again.

I doubt I would ever saddle you regardless of the weight of the saddle. I like to feel a man's body under me and his muscles moving while I sit on him and he starts to strain beneath me. I enjoy the feeling of flesh beneath me rather than the leather of a saddle seat.

Yes, if there was a place that was large enough and it was socially acceptable to ride human carriers there I would use the  facility and hopefully  have the company of my friends  enjoying the same activity.

rider_in :

Since your posting was rather short, I'm just curious concerning your choices and participation in this activity.  For example, do you prefer riding male or female  carriers?

I'm exclusively a rider and prefer men as carriers, most of whom are willing underlings.
however with that said, one of my dearest friends is a  gay man who enjoys  riding other  men.